Just what the topic says: SV is one of the, if not THE, least played spec in the game. There was a massive outcry then too, except we were ignored.
Can the current SV spec, for all 5 people who play it, be kept as a 4th spec and we actually get old SV back, which was extremely popular and useful and fun?
Dps monks exist… I know its easy to forget
SV isn’t super popular, but it’s far from the least popular spec.
The following specs have less representation than SV in both M+ and raiding.
Affliction
Demonology
Outlaw
Subtlety
Fire
Arms
Feral
Brewmaster
Psssht, what are you doing bringing statistics to an argument on the forums. Don’t you internet?!
My outcry was, “Please don’t do this! Make BM the melee spec instead! It’s so obvious!”
I too was ignored.
Survival is just a complete mess of random jank. Is it a pet spec? A melee spec? A throw bombs spec? A shoot a little crossbow spec? A pull random crap out of a hat and throw it spec? Yes! All of the above and more random nonsense! And you have to talent into ALL of them!
Having survival be a melee spec is fine, but it seriously needs some thematic cohesion. A melee class shouldn’t be using all of its GCDs throwing something or telling their pet to attack. Makes no sense.
as a launch ranged survival hunter that quit the moment it went melee come legion, i have to say i miss ranged survival very much. imho and as someone that has tons and tons of alts of all classes it is still my most favorite playstyle and spec that was ever created.
however black arrow was the only sore thumb. it could of been done away with.
if ranged survival was ever to be brought back i would love to see it the way it was with serpent sting, multihot with passive serpent spread, but add some chakrams, more venom and explosive type shots and exotic munitions for different playstyles and scenarios.
melee survival sucks from the day it was conceived. cause throwing bombs at your feet kinda kills the whole playstyle and fantasy for me.
i keep dreaming of that day to come but now after nearly a decade i doubt it will ever happen.
And as a bm player, no thanks, there didn’t need to be “a melee spec” at all (considering DH only launched with 2 specs at the same time as the rework)…
It is a survivalist themed skirmishing spec.
Allowing for both the ability to engage, disengage, pursue, and use various utility-based approaches to control the pacing of the fight. In the game Darkest Dungeon there’s a class called Shieldbreaker, and they play remarkably much like Survival hunter - except Survival also has a pet on top of it.
This is an archetype that exists in other games and it isn’t that difficult to find it. Shieldbreaker from Darkest Dungeon, the Na’vi hunters from Avatar, heck you can find some similarities from games like Monster Hunter or even Geralt of Rivia from the Witcher series.
It is just a survivalist hunter/ranger archetype that uses combat proficiency as opposed to stealth as their primary means of surviving. Ain’t that deep my good man.
Trust me, you’re gonna love it. I have a vision!
It wouldn’t be that bad if they at least allowed to build the current MM tree with Explosive Shot instead of aimed shot, and added other choice nodes to make it play like old Survival: instant shots with focus on elemental and magic damage instead of physical.
Then again, Assassination exists next to Subtlety for rogues, even though it’s a similar kind of difference. So a separate Elemental hunter spec could certainly exist.
Exactly. If MM players whine and are listened to, why did SV players, and it was THE best spec prior to Legion, get bent over and told to shut up and like the new mess of a spec, despite a HUGE outcry?
I enjoyed SV last expansion. Then they managed to gut it. Now it’s insanely boring.
level 10 account with only 7 posts. i smell troll.
I love Survival. It’s my favorite melee spec in the game at the moment, with MM being my favorite ranged. I wouldn’t mind a fourth spec though reflecting old ranged survival.
But I’d also like melee SV to be able to dual wield. Then my melee Ranger character concept would be complete.
I enjoyed SV pre-Legion. Then they destroyed it. It’s still one of the least played specs in the game for a reason. It’s garbage, and has been since the change.
Legion was released almost 10 years ago.
Its joever bro.
I would like to see more options for hunters. A ranged option would be nice for SV again. The current SV I only ever see in raids. I have not personally used it since Wotlk when it felt like a affliction lock.
For realsies. Our guild leader plays one. He is literally the only WW monk I remember having ever played with.
They are really popular in PvP as they have both a low skill floor and an extremely high skill ceiling. They never made it work in pve well sadly.