If LFR was never a thing

Would WoW be dead by now?

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I wouldnt say dead, but the population would be much lower, prolly half at best. It would depend if any other mmo would implement something similar to LFR if blizzard never did it.

For myself, LFR kept me subbing after doing all the solo content i could. So in effect I would be subbed 6 months or so then off til more solo content was introduced or the next expansion. At worst (or best for me) I wouldve moved on to another mmo that was more solo friendly than wow.

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Guilds and communities would be stronger.

Lower population of wow tho as a whole probably.

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I think there would have been a third party addon filling in, as there was before LFR.

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Im not sure if that counts, since acceptance is still controlled by players. People who prefer auto-queue do not want players gatekeeping group content regardless of the good reasons for it.

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FF14’s LFR > WoW’s

The game would probably have less people, yeah. Not sure it’d be dead. More “subpar” guilds might be trying to run content.

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I raided with a guild pre-LFR. If LFR didn’t exist, I’d have one less thing to do in the game since I’ve shifted away from raiding over the last few years - Pretty much quit cold turkey in the middle of the Nighthold patch cycle and never really bothered with it since.

“You raiding this week?” “Nah” “Aight” and that was it.

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Probably not dead, but a decent chunk of the population would likely be gone. Majority of the playerbase would likely just quit or buy boosts. Some people just don’t find raiding appealing anymore and never will. The older you get and the better technology becomes, the more people realize there are other things they’d rather do with their time than be subjected to 2+ hours of wipes while hearing bickering in a voice server. LFR is far less restrictive, hopping in and out as you please. Also still allows you to talk to a small group of friends as well.

Raiding and guild bonding was much cooler back in the day when the internet still wasn’t as developed and having a large group of people together like that was a feat in and of itself. Now? It’s practically commonplace in every big game. Discord communities are abundant with dozens of people across multiple servers all at our fingertips having discussions. If anything, large “communities” have probably become oversaturated leaving us desiring true connection with a smaller group of people, and prone to hang with a tiny little circle of 2-5 close friends. Raiding is still cool in WoW, but it’s just not everyone’s thing anymore. So, it’s better less restrictive.

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What if all raids were just one difficulty still and 40-man?

join a guild of likeminded players, there’s tons of guilds that just have fun raiding and don’t bicker at each other.

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Not dead as in dead but would be on life support and dying believe it or not LFR is raiding and those who use it are raiders sure the elitists like to say otherwise but they aren’t paying the bills it is us casuals.

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It would be as much on life support as presently it is.

No, it would probably be better off. Now if they could kill off this dumb e-sports thing we would be set.

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Great trade off imo.

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Come be a classic andy, and we don’t have lfr or rdf hehe. Make sure to go to grob where we love to have that true world pvp

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Yup. LFR WOULD have been a thing later on. All other MMORPGs adapted a LFR-like system, wow would follow in line.

And spend hours farming soul gems or arrows or herbs for frost resist pots for 1 raid night in ICC? No thanks. I got better things to do. WPVP is just 1v6 gankfest too. Toxic and unfair.

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Well yes wpvp can be toxic , that is a fact but it is stil all true pvp. Now for the resist stuff i cannot answer cause I’m a scrub pvp player aka bg andy that has fun…

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You would hate the raiding side of classic wow then if you tried it. You need so many resist potions for certain types of damage from certain bosses and certain gear too giving resist frost or w/e other element that it sucked the fun out of the game fighting rng for it. If that wasn’t bad enough, as a warlock you must manually farm soul shards to use half your kit, which is just a complete joke and they take up invo space. Same with hunters and arrows or bolts or bullets - must be crafted unless you got KJ’s legendary bow from sunwell that generates its own arrows. That’s what turns me away from classic wow. I also don’t like pvp.

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This is why i pvp , you know what I’m saying

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No, you would have all been forced to learn how to-- gasp– socialize!

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