Horde players for 3 years be like: 25% stun immunity and free fear trinket isn’t broken!!! Leave it alone!
Also Horde players: OMG BLIZZARD ALLIANCE HAS AN ADVANTAGE I DON’T HAVE, THIS IS UNFAIR, NERF IF PLEASE REMOVE IT FROM THE GAME, THIS IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM TO EVER AFFECT THE GAME, DROP EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW AND FOCUS ON MY PROBLEM!!!
Says the one calling people crybabies, imagine completely getting publicly humiliated like this smh
Maybe next time have some better arguments, bud.
EMfH wasn’t in the game for all these years, it single handedly is better than any other racial in the game for PvP.
Publicly humiliated? Didn’t you do that to yourself, complaining about a racial with a level 10 retail toon? Post on your orc/undead main please so i can make fun of you.
HOW DO YOU MISS THE POINT SOOOOO EFFING BADLY?
jfc you horde players are thick in the head.
You didn’t complain about horde racials when they were op, but now you complain about alliance racials now that you no longer have the advantage, you’re a sore loser and a bad player arguing in bad faith because you’re only listening to yourself speak.
Yea Rankone, even Blizz has noted the issue and from what I remember said they would be adjusting it or something for this time around.
IIRC, the whole reason it was made the way it is was due to so many Horde dominating the PvP scene, this was seen as way to help the Ali out at the time. They just really went a little to overboard with it… hehe.
Lol we’re talking about Arenas which only existed in TBC, racials don’t matter in the first iteration of Arena as much as WoTLK when every class is damn near the same in terms of effectivness.
Gear is what separates in Wrath and having double ICC trinket shts on virtually every other racial out there, sorry but reality is reality.
Skill > racials. Sorry but reality is reality. If you trash, you trash my dude.
Geared Skill Player > Undergeared Skill Player.
Double ICC trink is more raw dps/pressure and even insanely good for healers included that it overpowers any other racial’s use.
What’s blood fury have against over 300+ AP off a ICC25 trink? Come on now, you can put two and two together and realize how good it is.
There’s a reason why everyone runs a Human in Arena.
So basically what you’re saying is you only care about op pvp racials when it affects you?
So why wern’t you complaining about the other racials that were considered OP pre-wotlk?
Were you not at some point enjoying being a horde player with the clearly better pvp racial?
Yet it was never a problem when you were the one with the op racials.
This is my point exactly, horde idiots like yourself don’t see a problem with having an advantage for 3 years straight, but the second you suddenly aren’t the top dogs you complain, cry and moan till you get your way, it’s pathetic, deal with it like alliance had to deal with it for the last 3 years idiot
300 AP in WOTLK is nothing lol. You serious?
Again Arena isn’t as important as it is WoTLK, TBC arenas were not really a big deal and Vanilla had none so no, no one cared about racial imbalance until something like EMfH comes out and it changes up the whole meta.
No one was arguing that… When Skill and Gear is EQUAL, the racial does give a real advantage.
EDIT: Before Jeffro thinks I am complaining because my character is Horde. The racial does not affect me what so ever. I played Alliance originally when I did Wrath before, this time I am going Horde and also outside of Wintersgrasp I will not be PvPing… So I couldnt give two shts if its left as is or changed. I just wanted to state my point was originally in Wrath, I changed my Nelfs to Humans just for the racial because I did a lot of PvP at the time and I wasnt stupid…
Depends on the comp and how long the fight goes. Undead is a clear advantage over any other racial if the fight lasts more than 2 minutes. Orcs have an advantage over rogues all day.
And Blefs have the best AoE silence in game… Arguing to me isnt going to get it changed or have it left as is. Again, I am not PvPing this time around so I personally do not care if its left as is…
That said, Private servers are not an indication of how Classic will look. In addition Blizz has said they will not be putting Race changes into the game this time and the racials are not that big of a change to warrant most players re-leveling a character.
300ap per person across an entire raid is almost 6000ap on a 2 minute cooldown, and you don’t think that’s broken?
You’re just another pvp-centric idiot who think only your problem exist or matter.
Everyone in this thread is telling you that is you’re going to complain about how emfh is broken, then you should complain about ALL THE BROKEN RACIALS and every aspect that needs fixing.
If you think “OMG HUMAN RACIAL NEEDS TO BE FIXED FOR ARENA!” but don’t think orc/troll racial needs to be fixed for PvE than you are the problem here, you miss the point entirely, you’re just another selfish self cantered idiot who only thinks about their own problems, which is kind of my problem with you pvp idiots, you’re a vocal minority that thinks your problems trump everyone else’s problems.
Alot of people arn’t happy about Horde PvE racials being op, but you don’t see 20 threads made by pve players all complaining like little babies acting like the sky is falling because they arn’t getting there way, ONLY ENTITLED HORDE PVPRS BEHAVE LIKE THIS, everyone else just deals with it and plays the game, if you can’t handle alliance being slightly better at pvp than horde than maybe you should re-roll or wait till a different version of the game where it swings back to horde being OP.
Either way get over it and deal with it, you horde “pro pvprs” complaining about racials and how you’re soo afraid to fight humans unless they get nerfed is soo pathetic to watch.
Lol wdym? Juse go search for it, there’s tons of threads and many that got 404’d. There’s also no salt or whining here, you’re just freaking out because you’re most likely an 1100 CR rat who peaked a decade ago so the only thing you can complete is that same decade old content.
it is what it is, no hate from me but just speaking my truth. And Human is 100% OP too, doesn’t really matter what you say.
Have a nice day 
Yeah, not at all. There won’t be as many rets and Dk’s this time around as there were in original WOTLK. OP is just afraid that because alliance get a very slight advantage in the last phase of the game is going to break his little horde ego.
Super situational and nowhere near OP, since it doesn’t work for everything and isn’t as good as a DPS on-use.
Already called this response.
It absolutely mattered. Just because there wasn’t rating in vanilla doesn’t mean it isn’t very real how one sided the racials were.
The CC it does cover is applied by most bosses, it can def. be the difference between life or death and a wipe or not depending on the usage of it, i’d say it’s very OP.
Vanilla was whoever had the AFK bot that didn’t get detected, more than 90% of R14’s were basement dwellers or botters who did nothing but cheese their way to the top.
I refuse to believe any sort of Vanilla PvP can be considered actual “PvP”, there was way more than racials wrong with it.