Not saying you have to join the Jailer to do so, but it is an option.
Of course, I have no interest in saving the shadowlands, it just feelās like another planet. I have no care for these idiotic leaders waging war among themselves.
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Yes because I think people should be put with family/other people they like rather than be sorted into Hogwarts houses in the afterlife.
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i would prefer to burn entire system and let souls to do whatever souls supposed to do without third parties
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No 10 char
Why change a system that works normally? All it needs is a force to ensure things like the Jailer donāt happen again
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Considering the Jailer wants to destroy everything that exists and leave the Shadowlands (with him in charge) as the only power on the cosmic stageā¦
Likeā¦ yeah. The Shadowlands are screwed up. Maldraxxus makes no sense (even if I do like its cast the best), the Archon should have her wings cut off and get spiked into the Maw like a blue football, and the Winter Queen lost all my support after she nearly cast Ysera into oblivion. Even when itās āworkingā the fundamentals of it donāt really work. At all.
But just because the rest of it is (REALLY) flawed doesnāt mean Baldy McNihilism would be a better choice. Imperfection is not an excuse to go join Team Satanā¦
ā¦ Okay yes, fine. The Bastion is SO intolerably screwed up I really, really want to give the Forsworn a complete pass, Maw allegiance and all, but I understand the limits to the narrative and story and understand that the Archon will probably never get what she deserves, same as the Ebon Blade. But those are the most egregious offenders, and theyāre not so egregious as to damn all creation to an eternity of suffering.
Soā¦ No. No siding with the Jailer - thatās a terrible idea.
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I think generally speaking most members of the same race would likely go to the same afterlife given shared values, customs and beliefs.
Literally the only thing I disagree with Devos on was siding with the Jailer.
Basically the intro to the Kyrian Storyline is you getting to escort a soul to the Shadowlands, witnessing his last moments as he protected his town and family from the Scourge. Only for him to be immediately yeeted into the Maw on arrival.
When the Kyrian youāre doing with quest with questions this, their officer basically says ānot our problem where souls go, even if we just witnessed them selflessly sacrifice themselvesā.
Shadowlands, Bastion especially, is not a healthy realm. If the end result of this expansion is that weāve merely restored the status quo, Iāll be pretty disappointed.
Not as disappointed as when we kamehamehaād Nāzoth though.
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Shadowlands sorting seems to be based on personality tho. We see all different races in the different afterlives.
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i hope sire denathrius is a running villian from now on and doesnt just die in nathria.
hes just soā¦ good
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Yes but even personality wise, how different are most members of the same race?
Ingame not IRL, cannot stress that enough lol
Probably not. If Sylvanas didnāt open a hole above ICC, I wouldnāt even be in Shadowlands. Now that we learned there are more work to do after you die, I just want to close that hole, go back to Azeroth and try to stay alive as long as possible.
Shadowlands is messed up, but no, Iām not going to support the jailer.
Iād have to see the system working before making that call. They say thereās infinite islands within the Shadowlands, but these 4 covenants seem to be the lynch pins that hold the system together, or bring some sort of balance to their realm.
Venthyr seem to be painted in a better picture than the Kyrians. They basically torture souls, but they grant them a chance of redemption, rather than just straight eternity in the maw.
Why wouldnāt they be able to have a variety of personalities? Iām sure you could find a lawful good noble person, chaotic evil person, and everything in between for each race.
If the Twisting Nether didnāt exist then Iām sure my night elf DH would go to a different shadowlands house than your nelf druid.
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They could, but Iām saying generally a large % of that group would likely go to the same place.
No Iād side with the Arbiter. I think itās pretty fair, you impartially go to the place that best suits you based on your life and character and continue your own path.
Not all afterlives are difficult or have heavy responsibilities like these four. These covenants are special exceptions, thereās infinite other varieties. Many could just be utopian places of eternal chill, mysterious lands of oddities, or just something you personally would enjoy based on your interests. Drop me in a room with things I like and Iām pretty content.
The Arbiter keeps the Shadowlands organized and not a chaotic madhouse of billions of souls roaming around together. Order is not a bad thing. Perhaps the rules can be a bit tight, maybe there could be a way to petition the Arbiter for another destination or visit people you were close to. But it is there for a reason. If a dangerous soul goes to peaceful place itās going cause serious trouble. Iām more likely to defend the Arbiter system than revolt against it.
Also that means agreeing with Sylvanas and justā¦ew. 
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So lets see- we have slavers, the guys that developed the plague that wiped out almost all life in Northrend and northern EK, some fairies that go around disintegrating the souls of some of natureās greatest heroes like Ursoc, and a species who engages in systemic physical and psychological torture.
And then we have our enemies.
I guess weāre sticking with being morally grey, the type that burns down trees and commits genocide. Might as well give Sylvanas and Arthas a redemption since weāre already siding with worse people.
And before anyone tries to defend this.
Think about if this was being done to real people in the real world- slavery with the excuse āit is better for themā, wiping memories, constant torture to beat out the personality and will of people.
These being themes in a game is fine- these being themes for the HEROES in a game? That doesnāt make sense.
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Yeah, that part is super-weird. I guess theyāre all stuck in two-faction thinking: āIf Iām disillusioned with faction A , I must therefore join Aās enemyā?
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