If blizzard removed 2s bracket

[Meadamemnon-tichondrius (Meadamemnon)]

@Bloomsday-sulfuras

We can’t just handwave the toxicity that not only exists on the PVP forums, but the PVP community. Yes, we all know toxicity exists everywhere on the internet, but in this space, it is especially pervasive and malicious.

I’m not hand waving at it. We agree that toxicity is a problem. So there’s really nothing further to discuss on that.

It’s just the severity of the toxicity as it relates to player participation which we disagree on, which leads to this discussion…

@Bloomsday-sulfuras

Nope. All of your points are disproven by the fact that the first season of Shadowlands saw A HUGE SURGE in participation. The only driving force behind the decrease in participation is the uptick in toxicity. The threads I’ve linked prove that. The discourse surrounding PVP and new players in PVP is ultimately a discourse of toxicity in gaming and how discouraging and alienating it can be for the double consciousness’ of intersectional players within those realms of varying perspectives.

This is false. There has historically, and will continue to be so, always more participation in the first season and the last season of an xpac. This is because in the beginning of an xpac it garners new interest because it’s new. And the last season is because players are interested in the upcoming xpac and want to catch up to be able to play it. This a fact, blizzard themselves acknowledges. Every MMORPG sees the same thing. This is an industry thing. This is also why we have an xpac released every two years. So the yearly metrics will include either the surge from xpac beginning or xpac end.

Your threads you included don’t reflect that and that is much more the reason account for the surge in season 1. After season 1 players figure out the systems needed and either do limited participation in the systems or full participation and decide not to do it all over again every season. Those are the driving forces.