Give Arms warriors MoP style second wind back. It doesnt really work in pve but it is needed in pvp with all these slows and bleeds.
MoP style second wind was hilariously broken. I highly doubt we’ll ever see it return in that state.
That being said… Arms is going to have a nice survivability boost in Shadowlands with the addition of a lot of defensive options to its kit.
I’m not seeing a whole lot of improvement to arms, and If anything both arms and fury are getting more self healing nerfs
Arms is getting nothing but defensive buffs. Fury is getting self healing nerfs but they’ll also have access to some of the baseline defensive abilities so it should balance out.
Fury is getting reduced self healing, both from a slight hit to bloodthirst and from losing CSHB in shadowlands. Fury self healing is also hilariously busted at the moment, so…
Oh, definitely. So they can be super OP and broken as hell like they were back in MoP as well.
GREAT IDEA.
i swear im not arms bias but its only balanced because its useless in pve and godlike in pvp. RN they require a healer to do anything worth while. But i say nerf it down to 1% every 2 seconds or 1 for 1
Absolutely not, that was ridiculously busted.
I remember one time I got into a fight with a Guardian Druid while I was on my Prot Warrior with Second Wind. Fun times, we both died of old age.
Used to have fights like that between paladins and druids all the time in vanilla
I liked mists because just about every class had some broken stuff.
Remember hunters with Jumanji?
Or Hunters with monkeys?
Or getting deep freezed + glacial spiked for 100% life?
Or Double blood dk arenas?
Man, I miss all of those. Felt so much better than all of the classes feeling nerfed.
MY POINT EXACTLY. and you could tell when to counter because it was mostly noticeable
I’m not denying that MoP was awesome–it was my favorite expansion–and I wouldn’t mind everyone being broken again. I’m just saying that I doubt it’ll happen.
Aw man, I remember spell reflecting Glacial spikes.
So satisfying.