Idea for Rets!

PVP Arenas
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As a Ret main, I feel like competitively our biggest issue is lacking some form of MS. The strength of MS, CC, and Dampening, makes it hard to close out games. Our damage feels great! The issue is it feels like it can just be healed back instantly.

Rets, I understand bring utility but over the course those utilities have been much less impactful. BOP can be stolen, Sac feels like a death sentence, Bubble can be MD’d which priests are EVERYWHERE now… Freedom + Sanc feel like our best utilities to use but wouldn’t call them “game changers.”

I feel like Ret, especially being the “barrier kings” should know how to weaken them also… Why not give Ret, some form of MS but towards Shields/Barriers. I feel like this would be a great way to bring something unique to the class, make the more viable, and
potentially help with some of the classes weaknesses.

Thoughts?

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oh you done it now boy

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Actually something SIMILAR to this was a ret things years ago, I believe in wrath.

Essentially when using wing only half your DMG would be absorbed.

Id vote for that to return. Or for OPs idea since it’s similar

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Yeah just an idea. Like I definitely don’t think Rets are weak BUT I do think the current meta, is going to make it hard for Rets. I think Ret/Hunter/Priest, is insanely strong, and Ret/War, feels pretty good also.

I would definitely say the clear winners thus far = Priests, Ferals, Locks, and Devs. Pretty much all I see.

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Yes for far too long ret paladin has been unplayable and completely bad which is very dumb because of how hard the spec is to play

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Jw, aside from finishing power, which is a matter of tuning, what do you think are rets weaknesses?

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Oh yeah, let’s give ret an MS that works on absorbs and then pair them with a warrior with a powerful normal MS. What could happen? It’s not like ret/war doesn’t already incredibly synchronize. Maybe the comp will finally work?

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That’s a good question. I guess it’s the fact our Defensives, have been rendered useless, or bad to use. I think if you have insane damage, your defensives/CC, should be limited OR if you’re more defensive/CC, less damage.

I feel like Feral, and certain other classes, bring to the table everything Ret brings but more on top of MS, Mobility, Damage, Healing, CC, ect.

I think we’re just in an awkward spot right now compared to other classes. Maybe I’m wrong but honestly, I barely see other Rets, in Arena. It’s literally: DK/Warr low CR then all of a sudden becomes: Ferals, Locks, Priests, and Devs, once you hit 1700+

It’s been done before with Wars/DKS bro. Necro strike + MS. It was a VERY strong comp you’re right BUT it wasn’t unbeatable. At that time you had: Turbo, Vanguards, Feral/Lock, and RMP, all VERY close competitively. I believe DK/Warr, ended up winning the tourney but it was one of the best tournaments ever IMO. Back in the good ol Cdew days.

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yeah buff rets because they should do everything a warrior does but better, just as intended

wish i could do my rotation from 25 yards away

rets man, yall just literally want everything and think you aren’t viable until you have it

the only class where a clicker can do well in arena

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Yeah sure would be nice to heroic leap and charge ridding all snares to close the distance

Btw Ret’s 30 yard judgment hits fit 150k and tv hits 250k

Slayer fury warrior is unkitable anyways.

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Male elf take jfc

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Sanc is probably the best honor talent in the game.

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What

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Genuinely curious, but aren’t Rets like comfortably A tier?

Wouldn’t something like Ret/Rogue/X, Ret/MM/X or Ret/DK/X be pretty good right now?

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You’re probably thinking of bubble. When you bubbled, it cut your damage in half.

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Nah that’s a TBC thing.

I talking about a talent that let you bypass some absorbs when using wings.

It was either in wrath or cata

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Ahh, I don’t remember that. Sounds interesting though.

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Yeah it was very nice. On top of wings also reducing cc duration. Good times

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The issue is everything got what ret has. While ret gained nothing. Everyone has a bubble or immunity now etc

Other classes have mass CC options
Mobility / gap closers

Ret had a lot of its toolkit given to others but then wasn’t moved up with them in any meaningful way. There’s a reason it’s near lows in mythic and not played in high levels of rated PvP

give ret more healing or improve single target where its lacking bigly. One of these. You have random dps classes healing more

Give a true gap closer or a mass spam cc like everyone else

It likely has the worst PvP talents in the game. None of them are really meaningful

Forbearance makes little sense in modern wow unless you make other classed also have to wait 30 seconds to use defensive cds

Unfortunate that a class with such cool lore is in the state it is.

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It used to bypass 50% of all defensives, including both damage reduction cooldowns and absorbs. It would be a decent “respect my wings” buff imo.

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