no, my problem is that flying just doesn’t have a downside.
they literally invalidated ground mounts.
they should have made it so you have to make a choice
flying by nature has huge advantages. you ignore terrain.
you ignore mobs. you get to ignore players. it’s safe. it lets you go point a to point b without having to change direction, or worry about whats between you and there.
they should have, as a trade off, made it so it was the slower form of travel, and let ground mounts be faster.
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This! But instead of 60%, try regular run speed. That’s 100% movement speed flying, versus 200% on the ground (albeit with obstacles). If “fun” so legitimately overrides “efficiency,” every single pro-flying person would gladly take half-speed flight over ground riding.
But that’s literally the cut. Ground epic speed is 200%. Flying is 410%. Literally less than half the speed, AND all the obstacles of being on the ground. There has to be a breaking point between “preferential fun” and “legitimate efficiency” somewhere. And I’ve never had even a single pro-flying-all-the-time poster that goes on about riding on the ground and “letting everyone else fly” say “sure! I’ll move at half speed if I get to do my preferential type of travel” when I ask that question.
Not really a compromise. If you play enough to have $1,000,000 you would naturally have pathfinder because you played so much.
Buying tokens to get $1million would be expensive.
If you find the game more fun on the ground and you choose to NOT play the game the way you find the most fun, i find that hypocritical. Flying has been a staple of wow for something like 13 years. Its only when Blizzard made it into a problem you have people like you come out of the woodwork claiming “oh yea its a problem and has been for a long time”. Makes me ![:roll_eyes:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/roll_eyes.png?v=6" ":roll_eyes:")
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um no. it was a problem before blizzard said it was. it was detrimental to pvp players for one.
just because you want to ignore that means nothing.
like i said. i’ll make a fair compromise.
you want flying - you get it. but it’s no longer the fastest form of travel in the game.
his 500k was an example.
the point is it should be expensive. and considering how easy gold is to make, i can’t blame him.
The fact Blizzard have to compromise with players on a system says a lot, that they probably should have just left the system alone.
and what about those who find flying detrimental to the game? to those who were having world pvp affected by flying?
In case you were unaware, blizzard makes the game, the players don’t. Blizzard made the compromise so that players could still fly, but that they could fly when the content was completed, which is what blizzard wanted anyway.
Turn flying off with pvp enabled.
Pretty much solves the PvP problem. And if you’d rather walk than fly, just walk, solved your own problem.
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except flying has literally every advantage. if i’m farming materials it’s really unfair to sit there and say “well just stick to your ground mount” when it’s literally less then half the speed of the flying mount.
that’s another problem with flying mounts - they literally invalidate ground mounts.
that’s why i like my idea.
you get flying straight from the get go like you did in wrath or burning crusade.
but it’s no longer the fastest mount in the game.
flying - safer, straight line, no mobs, no pvp.
ground mount - fastest mount.
I’d be totally fine with that Matrim (WoT fan here) 
That idea would solve the issue regarding despawning ore/herb nodes for people on the ground vs people who fly to a certain degree, and it makes ground mounts no longer obsolete as you pointed out previously. In addition to this however, Pathfinder in it’s current form where we are stuck waiting a year for part 2 to drop before we can fly needs to GO. Keep it just the way it is via Part 1, but just call it “Pathfinder” period. No BS extra requirements or waiting forever for part 2, and make it available from day ONE of the expansion. We still would have to do all the quests in all the zones and fully explore each zone and the accompanying reps to revered for the relevant factions…but NOTHING ELSE
If they can level that fast, then they’re not interested in looking around at all the pretty pixels.
And I’d be happier if I could fly already instead of waiting nearly a year after the expansion launches to finally re-enable a method of travel.
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Farming what materials? Herbs and ore are shared tags now.
I paid for 280% flying as soon as I hit 70 in TBC. I’m not going to downgrade just so you can feel pretend to care about ground mounts.
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Exactly…not to mention that in order to level that fast, WM would HAVE to be enabled, thereby contradicting Profien’s comment about negating the use of WM. Revered rep requirement isn’t the issue…the 9 months to a year wait, in addition to all the other arbitrary BS requirements we have to do in order to obtain PF part 2 is
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Seems you’re playing a lot of BfA with your 266 honor level. Why would you care about the rest of the game? Flying so you can world PvP? As if your gear will let you even mount up and fly off.
Let’s not get all snootyy and act like you know more about how to dev this game than Blizzard.
To be fair, they’ve only gotten 16 of those honor levels during BfA.
Well, so he doesn’t actually play the game at all then (I know, alt). Why is he even posting in a flying compromise thread?
Why are those the only two options? Either they’re playing it a lot or not at all? I guess there’s no room in between.
I mean, I’ve only gotten two honor levels in BfA, but I’ve been spending most of my time doing PVE stuffs.
Oh you so don’t get it do you? Pathfinder was the compromise made because of the revolt over Blizzard trying to remove flying. Nobody is asking for flying right away. Most folks have accepted Pathfinder One. They are angry because Blizzard is making players wait nearly a year to fly. Pathfinder Two is petty and vindictive and is only there because Blizzard is still angry about losing the flying battle.
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