I'd quit too

I disagree, I think playing meta is more forced in DF then it has been in forever. I just think the meta is more diverse.

in terms of the meta itself, there’s a lot of variety.

splay
rmx
tsg
ret/warr
feral/mage
jungle
boomy/dh
evoker/dh
rogue/lock
mage/lock
cupid
ww/whatever melee

in terms of quality? everyone plays like cringe so it’s not fun lol

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Oh, so it is meta depending if the game is worth it to play? What meta is good then for new players?

In what way

Somebody can start during any season and have a fun and/or successful time

I don’t know bubblebuddy’s ratings but I don’t think that is a good indicator of having fun. If I was playing at a gladiator level I wouldn’t be having fun

Unfortunately is true. And triple dps IS meta during cata and IS op I think you are a little confused about this.

When cata season ends let me know if any warriors get glad playing anything besides kitty cleave or kfc or wmp (they won’t because it’s not viable)

Way more than in cata(which has 0) lol.

Nobody in cata is getting percentile glad or rank one playing with a destro lock(unviable) or with an ele(bad spec) or with an enhance shaman.

Nobody in cata is gonna get rank one on rdruid(isn’t r1 viable)

99% of teams in cata plays some OP afflock shaman x comp OR some kind of cleave that can kill lock shaman(ret rogue hunter, kitty cleave, ret dk disc) OR some mage team that can farm the cleaves (mage lock shaman, rmp, fmp, rsham godcomp)

“You are forced to play meta but everything is meta”

It’s actually so stressful to try to be good at this game.

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Then why is it so dead and no one wants to play it. Retail PvP is pretty much in the worst state it’s ever been in. People gave up a long time ago on it. TWW is going to be worse.

Bubblebiddy stepping in when my man is on the edge.

A gentleman and a scholar.

The meta where comps like splay and hero don’t dominate sub 1800 players so hard that they choose not to play pvp.

Splay dominates people up to any cr idk what ur tryna say

It beats the new players so badly, the players rather not try to que arena anymore.

Ya I don’t know about that. I’ve never gone from struggle bussing at 2100 to insta 2400 by swapping healer class in other expansions. Maybe meta isn’t the right word, but I’ve never had so much trouble playing pretty much whatever I wanted in previous expansions.

They lose so badly because of their own skill more than anything else though

True, but playing vs dampeners like splay is definitely a turn off. I don’t play most seasons like this but the mount is cool so I’ll suffer through it.

Oh I’m not defending splay whatsoever haha I think it’s scum loserville comp, and ya the mount owns :sob:

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So, ehnahce is viable then as it’s meta as you’ve put it. There’s a few enhance in higher on the ladder rn from playing triple dps. Idk enough about the state of ele, but can agree we won’t see any r1 destros in the near future. Easily the most fun time to play destro but the numbers are just depressing regardless of gameplay. There’s some druids above 2300 in eu already playing resto so idk about that one. I remember rdruid being less good in cata but not why or if it stays.

I just think you’re over focused on not being able to qeueue, idk, warrior destro rdruid or something. it’s a genuinely fun expansion with lots of options for most specs.

it’s just not better than what came before or probably not better than what comes after.

Aside from bad rng in solo lobbies it is

Pacing in reg 3’s felt bleh though, maybe better now that everyone has sets rocking?

That is the issue with meta. They always dominate suboptimal comps, otherwise they wouldn’t be meta!

Or warr afflic hpal

Or warr sp hpal

Or warr boomy hpal

Or demo anything

Or warr enhance hpal

Or fury warr with any comp

Or arcane with any comp

Only actually competitive warr hpal comps are kitty and kfc.