I’m running some mythics for gear. My dps seems very low. I’m wondering if I could run Frostscythe with my Ice Cap talent?
On paper the 2 doesn’t seem like they synergize very well. But I’m new to DK.
I do know that I despise Breath Of Sindragosa and have no desire to play that build whatsoever.
Just wondering if Frostscythe could be played with Ice Cap in M+.
Ty.
That’s part of the build I use and do really well with it, having Pillar for basically every pull is really nice for some big hits. Chill Streak about half-way into Pillar and watch your damage go through the roof!
I’m not sure what else you’d play with Icecap. They synergise really well since frostscythe only needs to crit on one of the targets you hit to trigger the CDR from Icecap. Trust me and always run Frostscythe in M+.
It’s an option, but from what I understand, with gathering storm, you want to be dumping runes fast while it’s up - in this case Obliterate causes Remorseless Winter to be even stronger. You lose out on a decent chunk of that gathering storm strength if you’re spamming frost scythe over obliterate; also, as you will be dumping runes frequently, the frozen pulse talent makes up for the less aoe from frost scythe, resulting in either lower gathering storm with frost scythe or stronger gathering storm and frozen pulse.
I’d recommend trying both and see how it works for you. Also, stacking frostwhelp’s indignation on azurite gear really makes everything pop hard. (Try to get 3x)
and keep in mind that your frostwhelps love nothing better than to pull the next pack of mobs with their 40 yards range… it makes life really interesting
I’ve seen this argument been made before but I’m still very hesitant that it’s even close. Frostscythe will increase your overall DMG by 15% without even taking into account it’s own damage source. I’ll run some Sims to quantify the difference in AoE scenarios.
Done my sims now. Interestingly enough, when running FP, Gathering Storm does less damage per execute still. I think this is because of the added damage through razorice application with frostscythe. In my sims, gathering storm reaches 10 stacks in both cases so the difference isn’t that large. I’m using 40 seconds 5 target patchwerk sims to look at dungeon trash.
When running Icecap, it makes no sense to not run frostscythe. Frostscythe significantly increases the CDR from Icecap which is the whole point of the build.
Frostscythe was 22.5% more dps with BoS and 31.6% more dps with Icecap. Even with 100% uptime on FP, you’d still be looking at 20+% damage difference.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qCLPVGcPpk7bTeSLAxSNPv
The problem I’m having using the Frostscythe talent is resourced cap!
I just can’t fill enough globals quickly enough to keep the rotation ‘flowing’.
I’m new to Frost DK…but using Frostscythe
My RP is full, I’m trying desperately to use up enough runes. While simultaneously I’ve got a Rime and Killing Machine proc up.
I’m just a little overwhelmed trying to keep the rotation going and use up my runes and RP at the moment. Just trying to prioritize and manage everything is harder. Sometimes I find myself using the Obliterates just to help dump resources even though DPS wise I should probably use Frostscythe. I’m just not sure what priority system to use with Frostscythe?
Is this a common annoyance while trying to use Frostscythe?
What takes priority to dump first? (If both are nearly capped-Runic Power or Runes?)
In AoE, you don’t care about RP cap. Simply spam away with Frostscythe and use rime whenever it procs. KM procs are naturally consumed with FSc.
For Single Target, you want to have 3 Runes recharging at all times. If you’re at max RP and 6 runes, you spend runes first.
Great clear concise explanation. I think I get it now. Ty very much. 
I think I was obsessing too much about being RP capped and this was stressing me out.
I had the same issue, but now only use FS when I run out of runes in an AoE situation.
Yea. Single target I’m using Obliterate more, so it’s usually not as much of an issue most of the time.