I would love to see "Class Halls" make a return, and perhaps Class-specific Renown tracks for cosmetics

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I think most people would agree that, for what things Legion might have gotten wrong, it absolutely NAILED the concept of “Class-fantasy”. Now, while some Class Halls were maybe received a little better than others, I think most people would still mark them a great addition overall.

For my part, I would love to see them return with a bit of importance. Not tying any sort of “power” to them, but rather, cosmetics and things that contribute to that sense of “Class-fantasy” once again.

For one, it would be great just seeing a bit more lore with them. Maybe they could have a quest sending you to the new expansion areas, giving you a little more context for things (ie. “Why the hell would my Death Knight be interested in the Dragon Isles?”), or even just moving things along (ie. maybe the Silver Hand elect a new Highlord, like introducing Verigan, a Dwarf Paladin after whom “Verigan’s Fist” was named after, allowing the Silver Hand to continue doing things in the story).

This might sound like a lot, but I’m honestly not suggesting this become some core feature of the game. Rather, making it something a little more evergreen.

Now, what I would maybe suggest is moving some of the Class Halls around. Paladins’ is perfect, imo, but I feel like Rogues should be using Ravenholdt Manor as their base of operations. Mages are obviously going to want to move for… reasons… but maybe they move the spire (perhaps even expanded with a library) to old “Dalaran Crater”, where other classes just see the crater itself, but only Mages can pass through the bubble to see the real spire that’s hidden by an illusion.

Or even just touching things up with a little TLC. As much as I’m sick of Acherus, there’s technically nothing wrong with it; maybe just add some NPC’s that with randomly banter about ongoing events, or maybe build something around the “roof” of Acherus, which feels like it’s just begging for some kind of additional use.

Point is: Class Halls were generally very cool and super flavorful. They did a lot to make your character feel “special”, and make you see classes as more than just “a slightly different rotation”. I think showing them a little extra love would go a long ways.

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I chuckled when I saw a DK posting this.

We still go to our class hall to Runeforge. Every time I use death gate I think about the golden egg that were class halls that were essentially just tossed into the trash.

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The idea behind them isn’t bad, but they amplify the narrative issues that garrisons brought with them.
I’m a murderhobo that occasionally does mercenary work for my respective faction’s militaries, and now all of a sudden I’m the leader of an official expedition to another planet which segues into me being the leader of my entire class’s official order/society as we prosecute a campaign against the Legion. Then comes BfA and I’ve been simultaneously demoted to elite mook and I’m the person the planet itself chose as her defender.

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To me, these could have been heavily incorporated into the new player leveling experience, e.g. with bread crumb quests every ten levels or so to do side quest chains to learn about abilities, well known npcs who are of that class, etc.

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That’s a good idea. It would certainly freshen up the leveling experience and put rails on each class for new players.

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That’s honestly a wonderful idea. I think new players would really latch onto that feeling of being part of a class order, something that really connects with the class they just chose at creation.

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I also wish to see it return, but all evidence suggests the company almost got lucky with how everything fell into place in Legion. The amount of work the devteam did there to give every class a storyline was unprecedented in this game.

To do it again, with shorter expansions being the current goal for the company, seems impossible. But…

Why not do it piecemeal? We already get piecemeal racial storytelling with heritage armor questlines. Doing something similar for classes is more than possible.

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we went from murder hobos to the apex of our class back down to a secondary character till poop hits the fan and then only we can deal with it.

they really dropped the ball with class halls. theres so much that could have been done and still can be done

its nice to see someone else who thinks legion was just dumb luck for blizzard. they could totally do it again even with smaller xpac since it wouldnt need to be a self contained story like it was in legion but 1 that works across the xpacs. all that being said i dont have faith in blizzard getting that lucky again and i have even less faith in them having that level of skill anymore

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I loved the old school class trainers, you’d get some quests only you would do as your class, head off to do this or that, come back, train a few things etc etc. Then those went away and those poor NPCs just stood there, practically frozen in time, with nothing to do. Then finally, after years of wishing classes would be meaningful again, Legion came along with wonderful class halls. Some of the mogs are hideous, but I love all of the class mounts and the class halls and the quest campaigns, and I did all of them!
I would love nothing more than to have class specific questing again, lead us to new mogs, mounts, weapons etc…bring in our class hall followers and other random NPCs that we’d see all the time, make them useful again.
I am all for this, 100%.

Please and thank you!

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I think they need more class-specific content like questlines along the lines of the order hall campaigns, but I don’t think order halls as an expansion feature will be coming back.

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On the one hand it sounds cool and fun but on the other hand the class halls did have an issue of driving one particular RP for each class.

Take the druid one for instance. Pretty much was moongalde 2.0. Very nelf centered. Doesnt really build much for other race/class combos.

Other class halls have similar issues.

That said i think more cosmetics for classes is a win so long as they are varied.

Personally i think taking each races’ reputation track should be expanded on for more rewards. Like more totems for tauren or worgen weapon mog that hides your weapon and uses your claws

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I could see this working as a leveling/class fantasy thing… with the caveat being that it should be self contained with it’s narrative and not be a source of power for players.

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A class hall for each race.
How about that.

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Considering some of the “class fantasy” that was shoved onto me was stuff that was either bad storyline or characters I despised, while making me “supreme commander” along with seven billion other people in my Order Hall and forcing me into a stupid mission table just to continue my campaigns… I’m gonna go with no thanks.

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I think a class hall per race would end up being too generic and be like what they had in vanilla where a random class trainer was placed somewhere in each capital usually a basement or random building.

I want a true class hall. The ones in Legion were a good start but they all could use some work. Some need to be completely moved to a new location, others just a few modifications and some need to be built anew.

Make it a small quest to start off like the unlocking of Gilneas. Then you can build on it with each expansion. Each member of the class needs to do the quest to unlock their membership. Similar to heritage armor quests.

It is unfortunate that we don’t have them as the class hall would have been a great place for the character to chose which hero trait they wanted to progress during WWT.

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Honestly, I would love to see Class storylines back. Even if they aren’t connected explicitly to the current expansion, but instead more evergreen. Like Death Knights tracking down leads to find the Cult of the Damned, or maybe Warlocks being invited to join the Shadow Council, which is operating more like “the Illuminati” now that Sargeras has seemingly been vanquished, stuff like that.

Could be a great way to send players to old parts of the world again, just for small-scale stories and quests, just making them feel a bit more “part of the world”. Like… we know Thrall was living in Nagrand; what’s the rest of Outland up to? Is it still a dying world? What’s Shattrath look like these days?

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That’s why the Archerus is still the best one. It has a unique chamber for Blood, Unholy and Frost, as opposed to Moonglade 2.0 that funnels every type of Druid into a Night Elf setting. The Archerus was just well thought out, DK starting zone and all that.

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Class Halls could definitely be optional evergreen content outside the main expansion campaign. New expeditions and quests for your class with each expansion. They could unlock class visuals, glyphs, and gear ensembles.

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I liked the aesthetics of the Hunter Hall.

Loved the Paladin one. It was pretty much perfect.

Priest sounded like the Paladins allowed them to use a spare bedroom for theirs.

Warlock was ok. Actually a bit too big in my opinion.

Warrior was appropriate. The Norse Valhalla aesthetic.

DH basically being a spaceship was weird.

Rogue I didnt spend much time at, but seemed appropriate.

And I never saw the Shaman, Druid, Monk, Mage or DK ones (I think that’s all)

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Dks should when selection death gate what archrus we can go to to.
Eastern plague
Legion
Icecrown
And the next place it will pop up at since its mobile base