And I mean that as in, I wish you can go from base game all the way to the current expansion without missing any content. As WoW is currently, you can’t really do that, half the content’s gone and the other half is held in Chromie’s hands. Chromie feels well… kinda just thrown together as a bandaid “fix”. As a returning player, it’s made WoW really damn confusing to go through especially when I hadn’t experienced the story since 2012. I know I might be wording things poorly but I hope it’s understandable. I just want this convoluted mess to be sorted out so that the entire game is playable instead of only half of it.
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It would be confusing even if all expansions were linear in level and all content in place.
There has been so much retconning and “we thought this, but in reality it was this” storylines. WoW is probably less confusing to newer players than it is to long term players who have taken small breaks.
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That’s not really true.
You can quest in any zone without Chromie. All of the zones are available, all but the tiniest fraction of quests and such are available. Each expansion has over a THOUSAND quests, just on it own.
You can get Loremaster for every expansion, but even those aren’t all the quests (Loremaster is weaker in the later expansions).
What you can’t do is “relive” the time when the zones had their own levels and such. That’s all been normalized.
If you want that, there’s MoP Classic. A nice, long, walk up from 1 to, what, level 90?
But, the content is there. The stuff missing isn’t even rounding error against the rest of the content that remains.
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I tried a new character. Holy hell it was impossible. Honestly? Amazed Blizzard hasn’t been investigated for a business model that basically says “After you buy the game, to actually play in a straight-forward manner, buy a Boost…”. Players really need a way to shut off or auto complete all quests in past expansions so they can get to the content they want.
Honestly I look for this to change come Last Titan with another World Revamp, assuming the game is still running after that. A lot of people are pissed about Mage Tower. I don’t see them or myself staying past the World Soul Saga in this regard.
You actually can do that. Even if you hit max level early or decide to turn off your experience points and just cap yourself to whatever that expansion level is. That’s how I got loremaster every single time.
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I guess I should rephrase. A good chunk of WoW’s content is missing, yes, the base game exists, yes all the zones exists, but that doesn’t mean content isn’t missing. Also, I don’t want to play WoW Classic in any form. It doesn’t have the races I like playing, until there’s a WoW Classic+ that has all the races, I have no interest. Plus, from what I’ve heard, Classic’s community is awful.
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Yeah kinda sad that some of the content is straight up gone. But at the very least, we can freeze xp n at least do what’s still in game.
You want to walk around the park and take all the cool sights in?
Well the park is gigantic and it’ll take you years to see it all, so you get a condensed version.
WoW is played at endgame primarily, so getting there asap is the focus for many.
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Which is a shame. Endgame should never be the main focus because it leaves new and returning players in the dust and forces an unhealthy mindset that they should rush to the end to experience anything. It makes the game far less fun and reduces player count.
There’s no fun in rushing things.
For you maybe.
The masses think otherwise, which is why it is that way.
You want a slow leveling experience, well go play Classic, that’s why it’s there.
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I don’t want a slow leveling experience either. I just want to be able to experience things in a meaningful manner and no, the masses DO NOT think otherwise, it’s just the businessmen that do. It’s not that hard to understand. And like I mentioned, I have no interest in Classic unless they allow me to play the races I want to play which they do not.
You can. You just wont get exp for most of it. Only real change is Cata changed a few original zones from vanilla. Oh, and that whole Panda zone getting void nuked.
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Show me the data.
If you know what Blizz knows then let’s see it.
Oh wait you’re just guessing, stirring up the forums on a whim cus you want everyone to like what you like.
The real world does not work like that.
When Classic was an idea rather than a separate game mode, I thought they should have made a way for players of any level to re-experience zones much like they were originally intended, adding in lore and background that is not part of the game, making zones, dungeons and raids that could be run in some some sort of meaningful progression. For entertainment value and xp.
Clearly what Blizzard decided was instead a way to cater to players who wanted to do old expansions so they could relive the grind.
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What chunks?
Yeah, I feel like that would have been better. It would have been nice.
WoW In A Nutshell: A Proposed Leveling Experience For New Players
Goal: Familiarize players with the story and with their class in a quick, fun, educational manner.
Structure:
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Each segment of WoW In A Nutshell contains five scenarios (each with a companion selected from the lore of the expansion), capped off by a final boss fight with a group of AI-powered lead characters from the expansion.
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Talents are explained at the start of the leveling process, and at the end of each scenario, players can choose their own talents or have their talents selected for them.
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New abilities are highlighted, explained, and the key binding process is laid out tutorial-style.
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No worrying about grinding mobs or purchasing gear – each scenario (plus end boss fight) rewards an appropriate amount of experience and gear, plus some gold and transmog.
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By the end of each expansion, you automatically reach the target level.
Expansions:
1-10: Exile’s Reach
11-20: Artificial Vanilla Flavor
21-30: The Learning Crusade
31-40: Lich King Nostalgia Tour
41-45: Cataclysm Mini ™
46-50: Checklists of Pandaria
51-55: Legion Express: A Tale of Two Dans (Illidan, Gul’dan)
56-60: Tattle On Azeroth
61-65: Shadowbanned
66-70: Dragon-Lite ™
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Background a player who was not already a Blizzard customer for many years would never have heard of. Or things that happened during an expansion. Things like prepatch events that tell us why we’re now someplace else.
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old naxx old zg the zones deathwing terraformed to name a few
I fully understand what you mean… and honestly, I’ve given up on Blizz ever fixing it.
Hell, I’ve given up on coming up with a workable “solution” using the existing systems.
Blizz doesn’t care, never have, and they appear to view leveling as an expressway to the level cap and the current seasonal content. And yes, current season; just finding your way though the previous patches in the current expansion is a headache as you have no idea what the correct order is and you’re getting the last one thrown in your face.
Chromie Time is a disaster with the scaling, flip-flopping between enemies being so weak they die from farting in their general direction to one-shotting the player out of nowhere for no reason. The fact you get booted out at level 70 (or whatever the current expansion happens to be) doesn’t help matters, forcing you to lock XP at level 69 (or lower) just to maintain some level consistency doesn’t help matters.
And what might make things even worse is there’s actual removed content which are key components of the storyline:
- MoP Legendary Cloak questline, which hinted at the Legion expansion.
- WoD Legendary Ring questline, which actually explains why the Iron Horde was taken over by Gul’dan… and several components lead straight into the Legion expansion.
- The “War of Thorns” event that was the pre-amble to the BfA expansion (disliked as it was) and included the Burning of Teldrasssil.
… and probably a few more things I’m forgetting about.
Regardless, there’s so much inconsistency and no sense to what’s going on and what should be done in which order. It may be possible to make sense of it, but it likely includes stopping at points to just watch YouTube summaries.
The fact of the matter is Blizz, despite their claims to the contrary, don’t care about the story.
It’s only a vehicle to get players into the endgame content loop ASAP and nothing else.
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