I will never NOT pick meta class again

After seeing just how HORRIFIC of an experience it’s been trying to be a BM hunter pugging for keys, there is no point in me NOT choosing meta spec any more moving forward. None.

I spent 6 hours today pugging into groups and gotten into 3-4 groups now which were all bust. It’s been like this all season. It’s just a waste of time. No- I am not undergeared (almost 640 ilvl) or not appropriate rating for the keys i’m trying to do. It’s just the class that no one wants . We bring no utility or group buff in an already blood-lust meta comp.

Blizzard clearly wants certain classes to dominate and/or isn’t balancing classes appropriately . Tired of playing the underdog every season.

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Okay, sounds good.

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Can I have your gold?

Wait… nope not one of those threads. My B.

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Considering they don’t really try to balance anymore not a terrible idea, meta is pretty locked in early on

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Unless you have an OP ability that encounter designers forgot about because they don’t play their own content. Then expect a nerfbat. Won’t fix things, but they will break some.

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How are Shamans not nerfed more and doing 30% more dps than anyone else along with ret palys? It does’nt matter. They nerf and you’re still way above everyone else.

If u have a stink class u need to have good friends who are happy to drag you through mythic. I suggest working on a comedy routine

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yea… but why? it’s such a bad logic and the design flaw. I’m just tired of it, this happens every season.

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Each expansion I just play what I think is fun, and if it sucks then I just try my hardest. Not much else you can do outside of that. WoW has always been this way.

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Yep, it sucks, but you gotta make your own keys as off meta specs or find a set group of people to play with. It sucks that every season/expansion that you gotta swap your main around to avoid this or have to jump through extra hoops instead. And even if you find a set group of people to play with, you might still have to switch mains anyway if your group works their way up to doing higher keys.

The meta has always been kinda busted, but I think this season is just especially bad because there’s SO many mechanics that certain classes/specs just deal with infinitely better than others and it’s kinda ridiculous.

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My way to play the game. I have had various of ‘main toons’ over the years. This is the longest running. non-stop since Legion.

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Aren’t there only a handful of meta specs?

i consider ret palys as meta. they are always invited.

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I just play what’s fun. I’m swapping back to BM hunter for a change of scenery.

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it’s conflicting bc i enjoy BM hunter and that’s fun to me. but that gets me no where.

I don’t hear anyone complain about their insane overtuned damage, which is probably why they don’t care to nerf them…

If people put 1% of the crying they do about aug, they would have been nerfed :joy:

Like enhance tended to be the default shaman pick with their totem and decently tuned damage, but nobody ever cared.

they are being nerfed tho?

yeah, after dominating the whole season they are nerfing them when? Next patch? Even then, those PTR numbers are looking the same.

Not sure how long you’ve been playing, but I have well over 50 toons, with many at level 70 and several at 80. If you’re the kind of person who sticks to just one character, it’s time to expand your alt list!

This was always allowed. The only people who complain about “meta classes” are folks who don’t like that their particular class, their particular specialization, and their particular playstyle isn’t gamebreakingly strong - meaning that folks still have to try to perform in order to perform.

Mind you, on meta classes you are still going to have to learn them is all. But… sure. One was always allowed to play a different class, specialization, or playstyle.

This is categorically false. “Game balance” isn’t something which exists in an environment where “it is balanced” when everything is perfectly even. That’s when the ‘meta’ gets referred to as being stale.

Which is way worse than a game being unbalanced, meaning you get a paradoxical relationship where the game’s balance … doesn’t actually impact perceived game balance that much.

It does get you somewhere is the point. If you look at statistics like those available on WarcraftLogs, BM is one of the worst performing hunter specializations - right? Well, yes.

And it does lag behind specializations and classes above it. But if you take a look at it and see the thinned out portion of the line? That’s part of the normal range of top players. But the actual statistics can and do extend all the way up to the dot in front of it.

I don’t know the exact English on how to describe it but the point here is this: someone who knows how to play their specialization will almost always outperform someone who doesn’t. It is only a case of that when you encounter people who are as good as you using stronger classes/specializations that these statistics really start to matter.

But yes, it’ll take more when one is playing a class/specialization that is underperforming compared to other classes/specializations. That’s the nature of any and all live service multiplayer games.

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