I will answer your Multiboxing questions

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I got in trouble for doing that while camping a rare spawn. I was told to either get them all in one spot under my control or have the other toons sitting elsewhere passive. And when I was attacking two places at the same time once I was warned about that too.

So yea all your toons must be under your control at the same time. As in you cannot have 20 hunters sitting afk in a field killing everything while you are on another toon running a dungeon. People did that and so that is why Blizzard removed the auto attack from pets, minions and demons. Multiboxers could simply sit afk in a spot and come back to it and make a fortune. There were also single cases of players doing this as well. It is against the TOA to allow your toon to do actions that you are not in control. How fare would it be for you or me or anyone if a multiboxer had a raid group full of toons on a PvP server and they were all hunters and warlocks with all of their pets set to attack… this was before it was turned into assist. Partly that reason and also partly because huntards kept accidently pulling raid bosses.

So I was told that you are responsible for all actions done on your account. If you do not believe me then try going afk with multibox hunters who are auto attacking everything. You will be banned. Your toons must be under your control at the same time and yes I did get into trouble in the past for splitting up my group and doing separate actions on them. That is why now when I do multibox I will keep my inactive toons in a city. if you do not believe me that a ban will not happen if you sit your hunters out afk and let them kill everything while you are logged out in another toon doing something else, think again. Blizzard tried to stop this exploit by removing auto attack, but it still happens from time to time.

The moment any of your toons starts doing reparative actions that you do not control, that is considered an exploit. People are somehow able to cause their warlocks and hunter pets to auto attack even with it turned to assist. They would exploit the phasing, all would split up and then you would have a dozen or more toons sitting in the exact same spot, killing the exact same mobs, but each could have an unlimited amount as they were not sharing kills… phasing. That is why Blizzard removed auto attack on our pets. And even then they were able to create macros to auto attack. I am fairly certain that THAT is the man reason why I was told that your toons must be in your control at all times.

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Honestly I was picturing a multiboxer having one overleveled group in Tanaris grinding rep and cloth off pirates while another group was wandering skinning in Barrens. You know, multitasking, since there’s still a one-action-per-input-per-game-instance requirement. Now that you’ve mentioned it, though, being able to passively and simultaneously grind old materials to exploit the auction house would be a problem. I just never would have guessed that it’d be required for a multiboxer to travel in a group.

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That’s simply not true. I can play with multiple toons in different areas all I want to. Blizz not only would not care, they would not even be monitoring for that.

Edit for clarity: Where I’ll agree is that you can not at all be automating your game play or exploiting.

In the over 10 years I’ve been posting in the CS forums, I’ve read hundreds of responses from Blizz employees (in blue) and have been a part of many threads on the topic there.

At no point have I ever heard of anyone being punished for having multiple accounts where their characters were in different places. That’s just not a rule of any kind. There would have had to have been some other sort of exploit going on for a GM to get involved.

While you do indeed need to be the one controlling your character, they don’t have to be grouped up.

I’m really sorry McPriest, but there’s a lot of false info in that OP. I considered breaking it all down, but it would look too much like I was simply attacking your post instead of trying to shed some light on what really is okay and what’s not.

So I’ll just leave it at this, if anyone has any questions regarding Multiboxing, please feel free to ask for clarity in the CS forums.

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I tried having the same account sign multiple times. it did not work. it is one account per signature unless they have changed that.

All mounts and pets that are account bound are also battte net account bound.

When I started anther battlenet account, I did not have any of my shared progress the only thing shared is your tickets.

If you try to move onto an account to get a really cool account bound mount that you have from your main account, you will get it, but when you mover your toon back out of that account you will lose it again unless they have changed that.

Non linked battle net accounts will also not share achieves.

A world wide gaming community was always the goal for Blizzard. They first tested it out with a battle net in Warcraft 2. That one is completely different from what we have now. I still do not understand why battle net went from Warcraft 2 but not ever to Warcraft 3 and then was not implemented into World of Warcraft until a few years in. Possibly it was a technology thing. The battle net then is not the same as the one from now and you are unable to merge them.

If you were around for the merger then you got your Mr Chilly. It was when the merger happened that things became more effect and mounts and pets could be shared more easily. I was able to move my stuff around then from toon to toon in the same battle net account but not across battle net accounts if it was an event only toon.

I am able to transfer toons from account to account. I had friend who made a sperate account with a fake name… he was not able to transfer any items.

Certain titles also do not carry over. You also cannot transfer from region to region unless that has changed.

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I knew it.
Welcome to WoW, the redhead stepchild of Blizzard.

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I have gotten in trouble for doing exactly that so it is true.

And my friend got into trouble for afk multiboxing his hunters while they killed stuff. He was told, all actions must be your actions.

Or do you think it would be fair if I could go and do a battleground or dungeon while I had 20 hunters set up killing everything in the zone? Trust me, if you try to take on a group like that then you are getting two dozen stampedes, hunter version of blood lust with the pets and they are an unstoppable force that requires a mythic geared raid group to try and take out and even then it is near impossible as all toons can simply click and one shot anyone. Then if that multibboxer has a rezzer he is camping the zone for as long as he want IF you manage to kill a toon. Then while all those toons are doing that, the multiboxer can go get on his main and run a dungeon

I was specifically told what is and is not allowed. They do naturally have an unfair advantage. I boosted toons on my other set of battlenets, a 5 shams and was winning 5s with boosted green geared toons rolling over epic geared people.
10 wolves, 5 lightning bolts will kill ANY player in less than a of couple of seconds.

Your skill does not matter when that happens, it is just simply mathematically impossible to defeat that. That is how powerful multiboxers can be so just imagine a group of them sitting afk. That is the main reason why Blizzard said it is ONLY allowed if you use key broadcasting only with no atomization.

if it is atomized then a group could kill anyone while the player was away doing something else or even sleeping. How would you like it if you found out that that the most powerful person on your server was some guy or girl who did it all in their sleep. That is possible if people download the software for it.

Everything done on your account is your responsibility.

You are mistaken. They do. There is no need to run a dozen accounts and each on a different server. It is also 100% impossible to make two toons go in the same direction or do the same actions from different locations without either another person controlling them or a bot.

You try it. I will bet you all the gold I own that you cannot make even two toons go in the exact same direction without /follow. Every time I have tried, they all go all over the place.

10 toons would go 10 completely different directions with follow even when given the same key commands. The only way that it is possible to control multiple toons in multiple locations is with bot programs and THAT is why I said I was told you are not allowed to multibox multiple instances. Even if you have your screens set up side by side, and you press a forward or strafe key, they will all go to slightly different places. The only way to make them go in the EXACT same direction the entire time would be to align them all starting out on the exact same pixel and all turned to the exact same direction also down to he last specific pixel.
You can only ever do two separate locations at the same time by ether using another person to do it for you or by using bot software. THAT is why the two location at the same time thing is not allowed. It is a proven fact that a human could not do it on wow.

I have multiboxed a lot and have spent thousand of dollars on doing it. I boosted over 3 dozen toons 2 times as I purchased both boosts just to multibox I transferred my shammy sets to five different servers.

I was told the only time your account can be two places at once is if you have it linked with a family member and they are doing one doing while you do another.

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To be clear, that’s an exploit. It doesn’t mean that when your group is feared, you have to get them all back together or face the consequences of Blizz.

I already edited my post a while back stating that yes, you can’t use a bot/automation or exploit. That we can agree on.

But having your characters in different areas and getting into trouble, that’s just not true. If you got in trouble for that, then you should have appealed it. It’s not against any rules to play two characters in two different areas. Same for groups of multiboxed accounts.

They really don’t. And if you don’t believe me, feel free to ask in the CS forums. A friendly blue will help explain that Blizz is not monitoring multiboxers for where their characters are. If they were, then I’d have been banned long ago.

I think what the issue is, is that your definition of multiboxing seems off. You can multibox 4 (random number) characters on one machine in one area and 10 more on another machine in a different area. Both groups are being multiboxed and Blizz doesn’t care about either of them.

I could also switch up my bound keys to send my characters in different directions if I felt that was helpful (which it’s not likely to be). Again, Blizz wouldn’t care.

You were told incorrectly then. Again, I’ve had a second account, I dual boxed for a stint to see how I liked it and I played the characters both in separate screens, different areas, together using a key cloning software etc. All of it was completely within the rules.

I could add game time to it right now and toss one character in one instance and another from my second account in a different instance for fun and Blizz would not be monitoring it.

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Yeah… I’m currently playing 2 at once, right now, and have done this for over a year now. Completely different areas, doing completely different things. That’s simply false information.

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I have a feeling it’s just a misunderstanding in the wording though. I mean, to try and use the same key cloning software for two separate groups in different areas would just be silly. It’s still not against any rules, but it wouldn’t make sense or even work.

So I get that part. That you have to be in control of the characters, despite where they are, makes more sense ‘word-wise’.

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Yeah true that. Could you imagine? One of your groups would be in a completely different spot.

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Then post a video of you multiboxing two sperate groups of toons in a coordinated fashion at the exact same time in two different locations. I am telling you that you will not do it because you and I both know that it cannot be done.

Every single toon will go to a different place. After /follow was removed from battlegrounds I tried to multibox without using /follow. I wanted to make sure my toons started in the EXACT same spot and also wanted to start out with new toons to experiment. So I made 5 Blood Elves. As soon as I presses the forward button all 5 went off in slightly different directions. Toons in different locations will do very different things even when given the same command.

if you think that I am wrong then why is it that you never see multiboxers in battlegrounds anymore. If you saw some recently that was using the Alterac Brew Pup follow and that is not as precise.

Two toons given the exact same command will go two totally different directions. If that were not the case, then why do you think /follow was made in the first place. You need to /follow. Specific key commands will scatter your group all over the map.

Then post a video of you boxing two separate instances at the same time. You will not because you cannot. Two different toons will do two different things when given the same command in direction.

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We already agree that it can’t be done. I’m saying that even if you did, it wouldn’t violate any rules. But since it’s hypothetical (with the exception of you allegedly being punished for it?) then there’s really no point.

Thank you though for confirming that really it was just in how you worded it. Is it possible to box two separate groups in two different areas? Sure is and it’s not against the rules. Does it make any sense to? Not really, no. That’s why nobody does it.

Can I multibox with two accounts and have characters in different areas that I alt-tab between to control? Yup! And that’s also perfectly fine.

But for example, you said that if your group is feared that there’s some sort of Blizz rule that you have to get them all back together again. That’s not a rule nor anything at all that Blizz is watching for.

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Post a video of you doing what you said then.

get two toons and set them side by side then press the forward key on your computer. Watch as they go in slightly different directions.

You cannot do it without follow. The only other way you can do it is with a program that controls your movements. You are only allowed to broadcast keystrokes.

Post a video as I said of you multiboxing and having the exact same key command move multiple toons across the same area and covering the exact same spot. if you are able to multibox even just 5 toons across an entire zone with them staying exactly in the same line without any software and zero follow, you will get 1,000,000 gold. You cannot do it.

if you are willing to try, tell me and I will log in to watch you do it as you are posting your video of having 5 toons doing the EXACT same thing across the EXAXT same path across an entire zone with no follow.

You will make every excuse in the book to turn me down because you and I both know that it cannot be done. Here is one perfect example, Blizzard has said that multiboxing IS ALLOWED in PvP… Yet you never see them in battlegrounds anymore. On very rare occasions when they get the Alterac Brew Pup to work.

So my offer stands. Prove to me that you can make 5 toons go to the exact same spot and do the exact same thing from one end of a zone to oher without using follow…

Here is one reason WHY that is impossible. Your computer cores… Your accounts will lag ever so slightly, they will all interact with the environment slightly differently. So my one million gold offer still stands to you.

When you are ready to do it, let me know and I will log in to watch you. Put 5 toons all side by side, give them the exact same commands, having them turn and run and everything. Across the entire zone of Dragon Blight. Warmode off so no one can mess it up. The only way to get even slight synchronization is to direct your accounts to different cores.

I give you the million gold offer for two reasons, one because I know that it cannot be done and 2 even if it could be done, your a cool poster so. But… it cannot be done.

it has been tried by many people, including me.

I wanted to find a way to multibox without /follow and even then I was able to only with the Alterac Brew Pup. Now… only open world.

So deal is, you claim that it is possible to go to the exact same spot and do the exact same thing using no software and no /follow.
I say it is not. You prove me wrong, you get the gold. After it was removed from battlegrounds, I talked to Prepered, Pinky, Souljahanks, Pinksull and Creamy about how to do it in battlegrounds without /follow. Every singe one of them said that it cannot be done. And yes you ARE allowed to use character names if you are using it for a refence and not a slander. One million gold. That’s how much you stand to win if you can prove me wrong and prove them all wrong too. Because if all those multiboxers including me are unable to do it and yet you “can” without any validation, then yea… It would suck having to fork over 1 million gold, would have to buy wow tokens and sell out much of my guild banks, but, if it were possible, then why is it that no one has figured it out but you… And yet you also have no proof.

5 toons all doing same actions all across the same exact zone, the entire length of Dragon Blight, no follow, all side by side and have them go in a straight line without splitting up. You will make every excuse you can to turn me down because it cannot be done.
Invite me in game to witness it, then post it in a video how you managed too do it.

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Have you been ignoring what I’ve been saying this entire time? That’s the thing. I’ve been saying it. This. entire. Time. I DO NOT USE ANY SOFTWARE WHEN I PLAY MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS.

Which, as I’ve said so many times now, I don’t. What aren’t you understanding? I tab between my two accounts and control them separately. During this, the inactive account isn’t doing a thing at all.

No I’m not, I’ve said it so many times now, in response to what you said in the OP, and you’re not getting it. I guess I have to remind you what you said, here, I will quote it:

Wrong.

Wrong.

I don’t want a million gold o.o I just want you to understand what I do. I’ll make a list here, and maybe you’ll understand where I’m coming from:

  1. I don’t use any sort of software. Nada, none at all. What your saying, I think, applies only to if you’re using any outside software. I most definitely do not.
  2. I have two windows open. I tab between the two windows. Sometimes, if my toons are in the same area, I will use /follow.
  3. Sometimes I do an emissary on one account and let them fly along on a flightpath–then, I tab, and go work on another toon on another account.
  4. I am not controlling all toons at once. Only one. I don’t want to use software, I have no need of it.
  5. On my two to three accounts, I also roleplay, again tabbing and typing for them separately.

For one, I only have three, for two, again, no software :stuck_out_tongue:

I never claimed this o.o I said, simply, yes, you can do multiple things at once via tabbing without any software. No, you’re not controlling your toons at the same time while doing this by any means. You’re leaving one inactive while controlling the other and tabbing between them.

I can post a video of me doing that, I guess, but it’s pointless, as I think the big misunderstanding here is you think I’m claiming something I’m not :stuck_out_tongue:

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I took a video via my phone as an example and it’s uploading now, you made me send my toon to bloody Vol’dun :stuck_out_tongue: One second. It’s very simple what I’m trying to say.

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I knew you wouldn’t. It is not because you do not want to. it is simply because both of us know that it cannot be done. Point I just made and proved to you, multiple toons are incapable of performing the exact same action without using a botting program.

NONE ONE has been able to do it yet. I even asked around to every multiboxer I knew, looked around online, did my research and all replies and all results from everyone and all sources pointed to the same exact concussion. And that is this: it is impossible. You will not do it because you cannot do it.

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Ok. Quote to me where I claimed they could perform the same actions? Where did I ever claim that even once? That’s not what I’ve been saying at all. Please, again, quote me where I said that.

My responses have literally been to you saying you can’t have two accounts doing two different things at once. Never once did I say with a program. Where in the world are you getting this? It’s not what I’ve been saying at all.

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Right, the quality of this video is terrible, but I don’t care because I recorded it from my phone and there’s no way I feel like doing it again. So you can deal with it in that sense.

Despite the terrible quality, you can see what I’m trying to say. One toon, I had say “hi”, though it’s not clear. The other one was standing there doing nothing–I’m not tabbed to her, she’s doing nothing. Then, I tabbed to her, and my former toon was doing nothing at all.

I proceed to send one on a flightpath, then tab to my other toon and run around on a mount. I’m not controlling them at the same time. I merely have two windows open and am controlling them separately.

That’s my point. Nothing at all in regard to “performing the same actions”. That isn’t what I’ve been saying. I’ve simply been saying: Two windows for two clients, you control one at a time, and tab between them. Yes, they can be in two different locations. No, you’re not controlling them at the same time. I also never claimed to be doing so.

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I like how you purposefully misquoted me by cutting out most of my statement to try and make your point more valid and are doing EXACTLY what I said that I knew you were going to do from the very start of my offer…make every excuse not to do it all the while pretending that it can be done. You and I both know that it cannot be done. That is why out of this discussion, there is me saying it cannot be, prove that it can and you refusing to prove that it can.

None of the other multiboxers have been able to do it. It is not possible. Two toons cannot do two totally separate, exactly duplicate actions.

I will make you another offer. Have five hunters engage the exact same target. By your logic, it will work because there is no flaw in the broadcasting of keys and everything is exactly duplicate. By your logic, they should all have the exact same amount of focus for the entire fight. But guess what? I have tried that and they do not. Even with your hunters all attacking the exact same boss at the exact same time, or even a target dummy, their focus gets out of sync within about 5 seconds and will stay that way for the duration of the time that they are doing that Go to stormwind, use the target dummies.

DONT tell me you do not have the toons to make it happen, you have the PTR. You can copy the same toon multiple times, and then run it.

The hunter experiment will fail, it cannot be done. They all run out of focus at slightly different times even when doing the exact same abilities.

So do the hunter one OR do the first one I said. If you are unable to do either, then that means that I was correct that multiple toons cannot perform the exact same actions at the exact same time.

Prove me wrong means PROVE it, it does not mean say that I am without any evidence. And if you do truly multibox, post one of them, then the other. because as it stands, I really do not think that you do seeing as how you have gotten so much info wrong.

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As long as it is under the same battle.net account. If you’re in a multibox group and only 1 mount drops, but those characters are split across multiple battle.net accounts only one battle.net account will learn the mount.