I want to see more specs with PASSIVE cleave/multi-target/AoE functions

They are opposing forces, they cannot together.

In the event of them existing, one is usually replaced by the other. Arcane shot and Chimera shot for example.

For Ferals its Brutal Slash and Swipe. They cannot exist together

Depends. With Inferno, spamming Rain of Fire does work and does yield more embers than immolate and incinerate :wink:

They can but it requires the whole tree to be designed around their combined existence, and the zero opportunity cost option has to be about 30% worse. For some specs it’s easier to do than others, destro would be extremely hard though because of how different their AoE and ST spells are.

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Yes but you need to hit a critical mass of target for that. I was trying to avoid ā€œDestro in 10+ target AoEā€ because it’s a very unique case.

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What, no. You just add an extra choice node to an existing one. Nothing needs changed!

Thread in a nutshell lol

I dont know if its because you have an image to uphold or not, but i can only go so long before i get frustrated. I dont know how you do it lol

I just don’t see any reason not to be courteous. If I didn’t have the time I wouldn’t be here and while I may not be on board with the allocation of resources required to undertake such a series of changes (Especially when specs in their current iteration need as much work as they do in places) but there’s still perspective to provide and insight where applicable.

As for keeping up appearances, I’ll rarely be the first in a conversation to turn sour but I’m not above throwing jabs where… let’s not say approprite, but warranted.

But how do you put up with repeating yourself so many times…my frustration comes from: it’s an easy concept to understand, multiple people have explained it in many different ways. You have to get it by now, and they still cant grasp it.

Its like explaining a math problem to a child. Only so many ways you can go over the same thing before it wears on ya

Honestly I don’t think they don’t grasp it, I think it just requires pre knowledge / a predisposition to think about the game in a way that both isn’t necessary and frankly isn’t enjoyable to many people.

I don’t want you speaking about how to fix Shamans or DKs.

I’m right here, you know.

Okay, but I’m still gonna.

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Yes but im not referring to you. This isnt the first time Ellipsis and I have tried to find multiple angles to explain something to someone who doubled down on something they werent familiar with how it worked.

This was a generalized question.

Okay, but can you understand how, within the context of this topic, it sure looks a lot like you’re referring directly to me?

Not the one who said it but even I thought it was a bit easy to misconstrue.

It wasnt directly, but you do fall under that umbrella

Okay, so…again. I’m right here. You don’t have to insult me like I can’t see what you’re typing.

How is it insulting you?

I asked someone how they dont get frustrated constantly repeating themselves with explanations.

How is that in any wau insulting?

What’s the proper way to deflect when proven wrong multiple times?

You’re insulting me!!!

Pretty insulting, to be honest.

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Math problem has nothing to do with you. I am simply explaining my level of frustration that most everyone can relate to. An analogy if you would. Of my own feelings. Nothing to do with you though you are the source of my current ire

Youre looking for reasons to be a victim at this point.

just as an fyi that user is a maniac. They scream at everyone and blocks anyone who disagrees with them