I used to think Disc was it…But it really isn’t.
I don’t want to have to apply atonement.
I’m fine with it doing less AOE healing than any other healer while doing more DPS than any other healer.
It would be nice to have a melee and ranged option for this type of healer. Thanks.
Mistweaver monk?
Pretty much the only other healer that fits that description.
In my horribly biased opinion it’s also the most fun.
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what is wrong with atonement?
the other option is Monk
I don’t like attonement. It’s hard to keep track of without addons IMO.
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Agreed…but if they don’t like keeping up atonement will they also dislike keeping up ancient teachings?
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On the plus side AT is very easy to apply and can EF on the fly if they have a fidgety tank.
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Chloromancer in RIFT was my favorite iteration of a healer that dealt healing through damage.
It was a unique, weird class.
A mage that uses plant-magic, to heal and to harm. Like a Druid, but a cloth-wearer, and no animal-thematic, purely plant-themed.
It was my favorite healer ever, even all these years later.
Kinda played like a Disc Priest does. Your damage was mid, but you healed a lot based on the little damage you dealt, a lot of DoTs and HoTs, I miss that class a lot.
Nothing I’ve played in any other MMO was quite like it, loved the sounds the class made too.
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To be fair I haven’t tried monk in a while, but it’s the only class I don’t keep current on seasonal gear as I haven’t yet enjoyed the way monks play. Perhaps I should give it another look.
What’s wrong with atonement? The ramp up.
I want to spend my time ramping my DPS up. The time I have to spend GCDs applying something to other players is time I could have been spending ramping up my DPS.
I don’t want to pick which people I heal. The answer is every friendly target within range. All the time.
Yes, it takes skill and I should “git gud.” But we all know that isn’t going to happen. So I feel like this could be a good compromise.
I think it could also have a place in raids. Healing diversity could be a very good thing there.
Keeping up Ancient Teachings just takes casting Jade fire stomp or essence font once every 15 seconds so it’s pretty easy.
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Holy paladin, disc priest, and mistweaver monk.
Unsure about dracthyr heals.
It really is. Unless you want to just do damage and passively heal, then that means you want to play a damage dealer but get the benefits (like shorter queue times and more group desirability) of a healer.
Nailed it; you want to play a damage dealer but with healer privileges.
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Ancient Teachings is a self buff versus making sure everyone who needs it has it. Also you apply it with your rotation so it would be impressive if it’s not up.
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I really loved playing Disc when Atonement was passive smart healing and it didn’t require someone having a buff to get the heal.
It let me pretend to be a crappy DPS with the ability to switch to straight healing if things started getting wonky.
Then Patch 7.0.3 happened and I never enjoyed that spec again. 
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Blood DK is a powerful healer which heals by dealing damage 
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Yeah that’s the disc I remember and loved. I’m going to give the link a go I guess…but given that I don’t like playing ANY monk spec… I doubt I’ll enjoy this.
Yeah…did you think this was a “gotcha?” It’s spelled out pretty clearly in the first post.
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It really is. You cant even argue that it isnt. It literally heals by doing damage and that is the core mechanic of the spec.
Well, too bad? I dont want to have to build tidal wave stacks, but here we are. That doesnt change the fact that disc priest is the healer that heals by doing damage.
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Are you wanting to primarily raid, or mythic+?
Because there is no ramp for disc in 5 man content. You will typically press one button that will apply atonement to the whole group. You will press your squid, spam DPS abilities to extend your squid and cooldown the next, or something like that. Problem with disc is that it lacks the ability to do much about unexpected damage, mistakes, and high single target healing. Imo, it’s terrible in pugs.
Mw is very good right now, but yes, you do have to maintain teachings. Its extremely easy to do that, but you do also have to play around faeline stomp, and that is not nearly as easy, because tanks constantly move, and because the melee range is absurdly bad.
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I think the issue is what you are asking for isn’t how WoW works. Almost everything in this game is a builder-spender style, so in the case of healing you need to apply atonements, or renewing mists, or riptide etc to do your cleave/aoe healing.
It sounds like what you want is to just exist and heal by dpsing, which just isn’t how this game works. Maybe check out Blood DK but honestly if casting radiance every few seconds sounds like too much work I’d be worried having you as a tank lol
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Mistweaver monks have a healing build that uses lots of attacks, but you will still have to cast normal heals as well on any challenging content, which is similar to getting atonement up. Holy paladins can build to do a good amount of passive healing via attacks, but you will never do enough healing from just attacking to ignore your hardcasts entirely.
The ONLY healing class/spec that can build for both melee AND ranged damage is a Druid (who can choose to catweave or use moonkin/balance talents for damage). However, I do not believe druids are considered to “do more DPS than any other healer.” And personally, I feel the shapeshifting required to maximize druid healer dps is awkward and clunky.
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Ancient teachings is a lot easier, as it’s a self buff that allows you to heal the whole party / raid, rather than having to keep track of singular buffs on each individual outside of your AOE cooldown, but that’s beside the point. Keeping track of buffs timers at all is a chore and that’s WITH addons. Without them, the basic UI is miserable for this.
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