It has such a negative connotation to it, y’know? It’s like calling yourselves the ‘Bloody Murderers.’ It’s going to start giving some bad labels. On a more serious note, I actually do think the Forsaken calling themselves this has genuinely contributed to the Forsaken’s destructiveness, disregard for life and all-around Nihilism that has settled over their civilization since their Deaths. I mean if you THINK you have genuinely been forsaken by the world, then of course you’re going to be lashing out at it. But I disagree with this assumption. The Forsaken have found many friends within the Horde and they don’t have to see themselves as having been forsaken anymore.
On another note, ‘Forsaken’ was the term Sylvanas named them, and they should be actively distancing themselves from Sylvanas now. What else should/could their faction be called? The Reborn? Lordaeronians? What does Wyrmrest Accord think?
(P.S. I know I’m from Moon Guard, but WrA has a higher Horde population :>)
I think it still fits considering how the Alliance refuses to acknowledge their claim to their homes and all. Like, they are both legally and culturally ‘forsaken’ by their former people before we even hit the more shifty elements of undead cultures.
I think there are more living Lordaeronians than people give them credit for. Refugees that fled to the south and across the sea, those who joined the Argents, not to mention the Scarlet Crusade. While undoubtedly a minority to the number of Undead Lordaeronians, The decision of what to do with them will have to be answered. For they are also citizens and are entitled to return to their homes and their land. Perhaps Lordaeron’s territory should be divided. In an ideal situation, both Living and Undead Lordaeronians would both become citizens of a restored nation, but I don’t see that being likely.
Well there was that whole story part where the living humans were actually super okay with letting their undead family and friends come back and then Sylvanas
But I think that sort of proves the point that, if it were done in an environment where being murdered isn’t an immediate response, I think it’s more than a possibility to have the Undead “reintroduced” to society.
Of course there’d be people upset, but no more upset than letting literal werewolves and aliens join in. There were quests in Wrath and Cata addressing this very thing about how weird it was to just let Worgen and Draenei into the fold.
The first starting zone in Wrath even talks about the Draenei doing stuff.
After heavy discussion with my socket puppet skeleton crew. We understand that we have been forsaken by Sylvannas! Therefore we propose we call ourselves the Forsaken!
It does open that possibility and its one I have no logical argument against. It annihilates the reason for my favorite race being part of the Horde and potentially for them even existing as a separate group.
However, I find conflict between thinking beings that aren’t simply the next Big Bad very interesting.
I think it’d be interesting to have some Forsaken who decided to say screw it and went back to the Alliance, because we know it’s possible since there’s even undead working with the Argents.
But I also think that it’d be way more interesting to just have specific cities to be at odds with each other than making some sort of comglomeration that has been the factions for literal years. It shouldn’t be the Entire Horde anymore who gets pissed at XYZ, it should be the Tauren pissed off at the Orcs and the Dwarves for doing something and the Night Elves and Worgen backing the Tauren up. Stuff like that would be more fun.
I’m rather against the idea of any undead separation (at least when it comes to playable undead) due solely to the very small size of our role-play community with how big of a hit BFA was to us.
As for the idea of smaller factions at odds with each other instead of big wonky conglomerates I think that could be interesting though I question Blizzard’s ability to handle such a thing. (The small scale classic/cata zone questing is some of my favorite.) Who knows?
