I think I walked into a Nightmare

Nevermind. Just nevermind.

Lessoned learned. Editted for w/e reason idc.

There’s a lot going on in your post, but to pick just a couple of things to comment on…

What made WrA go from exactly what you’re looking for to no good for you at all? You mention a few times that the player base has changed and is different. I don’t know what sort of change you mean, but it’s very likely true and will very likely be true for any realm you try. It’s been a long time since Wrath. The player base has changed. For good or bad is a matter of opinion and a topic for a different thread, but you’re not going to find the exact same experience you had back during Wrath.

What sort of gaming experience are you looking for? It sounds like you’re unsure of what you want to do with your 120 character. Maybe sorting that out will help. Once you know what sort of end game experience you want, folks will better be able to help you sort through all the info out there and put you on the right path.

In addition, you may want to look for guilds or communities rather than realm hopping and trying to find the sort of socialization you prefer.

One last thing is that I believe new player realms tend to rotate so they don’t get overpopulated, so Daggerspine may be a new player realm now, but it may not be forever.

Leveling a new toon might give you the chance to seek out that guild or community that will help you find the social aspects of the game you want. Maybe also check out the realm specific and RP specific forums before paying for more realm changes. The new patch is only a couple of days away and should cut down on the time it takes to level a new character, but the most drastic differences are between levels 40-80, off the top of my head, so there’s not much to lose getting started now if that’s the path you want to take. As for the other stuff coming in 8.1, a lot of it is continuations or additions of stuff we already have, so if you’re not enjoying end game as it stands now, the 8.1 changes and additions may not help in that regard.

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You may also want to reconsider mentioning that you got silenced and why - first because it’s against forum rules to discuss personal disciplinary action, and second because it may not do you any favors in finding a friendly guild or community for RP.

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See, I can’t even delete the topic/thread that I created. - What kind of sense does that make? Heh. These forums…

I can get a Blue to reply real quick when I butt in on someone elses thread, though when I make my own (as suggested) and create a topic in a dying venue. It gets completely ignored after over two hours. I just don’t get it.

Though I shot myself in the foot with presumptions about WoW, next time I will for sure do better research on current Customer Support (status) and the just the general overall ā€˜state of the game’ - which is horrible, imo.

No offense, Truthspeaker. And thank you, for your inputs.

You’re welcome. I’m certainly don’t have any official say here, but as best I could tell, only a few sentences in that long post were potentially inappropriate for the forum. You almost certainly didn’t have to delete the whole thing, especially not if you genuinely want help.

Welcome back to the game and good luck. I hope you can find an aspect of it that you enjoy. For the record, a couple of hours is a very short period of time to expect a lot of replies on a message board. Patience is a virtue. Good things come to those who wait, and all of those other platitudes. :wink:

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Once a thread has replies, it cannot be deleted. Been that was since the first incarnation of the forum. This version is the fourth.

This forum is a player to player help forum. Blues do not visit here for feedback and only appear if a post has been reported for not following the terms of use.

If you want to discuss what you feel you don’t like about the game, I would suggest the General forum, which is monitored by blues for feedback. You would, however, need to get specific about what you dislike.

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And based off what I’ve seen thus far; repare for a melee of trolls/bullies and just flatout mean people. I think I’ve seen about as much of this new ā€˜wow-playerbase’ as I can handle.

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There is also a feedback option ingame, under the help menu which will send feedback directly to the devs.

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Thanks, though they usually give you about a 6hr wait time from what I gathered. Though maybe that was something else. Idk.

The wait time is for support tickets. Feedback is usually just a one way communication unless they need additional info.

If you do have an game problem, the online ticketing system started tossing errors this afternoon and they are working on it.

You do have the option, via the support menu to request a callback for game problems and they are usually pretty good about getting back quickly but with the online ticketing system being down, callbacks may take a while.

The web chat option is really on,y used for account set up and billing issues. I don’t think the menu for it lets you use it to report game problems.

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I can’t see the edited chat for whatever reason so I don’t really know what is going on or what you needed help with (or wanted to give feedback on)

What Nok said above is good advice.

Like… roughly 20 minutes ago I believe it was back up and running

I posted a rather long rant about my current world of warcraft experience (returning player might as well be new though) and I hit the post button prior to taking a deep breath and actually thinking about what I was writing.

Ah, ok. Nothing wrong with a good rant especially if it’s about something important.

We’re all around to help or advise with whatever you need.

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That’s cool. About a month too late though, I’m rather disillusioned about this whole deal. I’m an old player from years ago. This game is almost entirely different to me. I went from;

ā€œThis is awesome! Everything I used to need an AddOn for is already built into the UI. This is awesome!ā€

So uh, how do I get to Broken Shores?

ā€œWait, uh… This is like an entirely different game. Who are these people with *'s by their name? Why do I have to kill Horde if I don’t want to and it’s a Quest? What the heck.ā€

Okay, scratch this. Let’s back to zones I know and get a better grip here. Alright, let’s hit Northrend, I kind know that.

ā€œAzerite? Wut. What is Azurite and why do I need it?ā€ /scratchhead.

Insert overwhelming replies to probably what seemed like ā€œnewbieā€ annoying questions via Trade Channel, Whispers, and then eventually these forums here.

The general response I would get, up until today I might add have been generically, ā€œYou should know this, newb.ā€ ā€œWhat you don’t this already? LULZ@N00Bā€

Great player base, awesome community. NOT AT ALL what I remember from interacting with Wowplayers back in the days.

No bueno baby.

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Makes sense. I remember your reply from the arena forums.

Talk about an old school player - connected realms were the end of MoP

If they’re still helpful in anyway there are the Returning Player Guides on WoWhead and if ā€œself helpā€ is your thing it’s never a bad idea to browse the other wowhead content or the class discords. If you’d prefer to ask a question directly there is always here in this forum or you check out some of the other sub forums for classes / content types.

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Feel free to ask questions in either this forum or the new player forum. Both have a pretty good core of regular posters and tend to be troll free. If someone does troll, they get jumped on and reported.

You may not get an immediate answer but you will get solid answers without getting put down for being new to the content.

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I appreciate your reply, I really do.

But if you remember my posts from the Arena, then you can probably take a second and look at my post history to see that I have made several posts in several threads/topics w.e you guys call these fancy skins.

And the general census was not cool. The only decent feedback as you call it, I have received has been on a WrA Realm Forum with only a handful of people. Which is awesome! (don’t get me wrong)

But for a new person coming back, I don’t recommend it.

I don’t recommend Character Boosts.

I don’t recommend WoW Tokens.

In fact, I’m really waiting to see how the little 25% increase on XP’s effects leveling. If it’s not a biggie, than I most likely will walk way. Meanwhile, I’m not trying to come out like a witch or a dog in heat, though I’m not the type to just sit back and watch myself getting belittled, degraded, and downright insulted (ingame Trade, tbe) for asking absolutely ā€œnormalā€ questions about a extremely complex game.

Nonetheless, I’m sad. This community sucks.
The majority of the players are either, down right weird, and or professional video game players with three monitors.

There’s no more ā€œCasual WoWā€ it seems. Let alone help.
Edit - the reason I make reference to the character boost and the tokens, is because I have spent (MY MISTAKE I REALIZE) about five hundred bucks when this is all said and done for mounts, tokens, boosts, xfers.

You’ve learned the hard way that asking questions in trade or general chat isn’t as productive as it used to be. You should also have learned that asking polite, well thought out questions here on the forum can indeed be helpful going by this thread alone.

The XP changes aren’t an increase in XP, it’s a decrease in the amount of XP required to get to the next level. The reduction in XP needed for the next level starts at level 20, increases to a 30% reduction by level 40, a 40% reduction from levels 59 to 64, back down to 30% by level 74 and is a consistent 25% reduction through to level 119.

It’s a fairly substantial change. Source:

There’s still a good community here; you just have to work a little to find it. Cross realms and sharding mean that realms aren’t isolated communities any more. That’s why finding a good guild with people who share your in game interests and attitude is important.

Speaking as a very casual player, the game is actually more casual friendly from my perspective than it’s been in a long time. That said, I didn’t start playing until the very start of Cata and took most of that expansion to get a character to max level.

Outland and Northrend content shouldn’t have changed much since you last played, and as for the new stuff, if you have specific questions, as someone else said, asking here or in the new player forum is a good way to get polite and helpful answers as long as you’re willing to be patient and give folks time to read and reply.

Good luck to you! :slight_smile:

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The casual crowd exists and they’re definitely around and active in their own mysterious ways where they somehow manage to find each other.

I see what your saying and I agree to some extent with it.

While I can only comment from my perspective - these last two year or so, the time where Discords really been getting popular, I’ve noticed the ā€œcasualsā€ have become the ā€œlurkersā€.

They’re the ones that would send a pm to ask a question or get clarification on something we’ve posted or would prefer written articles / video guides to see and learn and their own pace. As players they don’t appear to want to actively post for the same reasons you are describing. In this era for WoW where we are all supposed to be connected through Reddit, Discord, in game Communities, Fan Sites and the like there is definitely a feeling of WoW being ā€œunapproachableā€, for lack of a better word, for new players that are not jumping in already networked.

For the time I was Moderator of the class discord I don’t think I was ever really successful in trying to network in the new players of the community with veteran players. People seem to naturally progress through the cycle and once they find two or three like minded individuals they move on to guilds and go from there but it’s not without going through the same garbage you had put up with.

I think everyone is in agreement that it could be better.

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I completely understand the issue as an old school player (2009 was when I left) to now. Leveling in any logical manner is non-existent. It is more like start here, here is a couple quests that lead to 3 different zones to continue on, oh wait… why are all the NPC mobs staying at my level in a zone I know weren’t this level.

It’s been very confusing now that the mobs level up with you and there is real no rhyme or reason as to where you are supposed to be leveling. I totally bypassed Burning Crusade content and didn’t realize it as I went to WotLK content.

Really wish they had an option to take the slow route and level up using the original content progression. I am not interested in going from 1-Max level this quickly. You miss out on the lore and fun aspects of the game like when you ran through each zone as part of an entire quest path.