I think I solved the High Elf (& Dark Ranger) Allied race debate

Okay, so to those people saying High Elves and Dark Rangers (Night Elves brought back from Teldrassil) are too similar to Blood Elves ans Night Elves to be made playable, I propose a compromise, or solution (depending on your viewpoint).

If some of the theories prove true, and you’ll be able to make the factions race free, where you can be a Human on the Horde or Orc on the Alliance, then maybe, to still add an extra incentive to play a specific faction, you could add faction-exclusive customization options.

For example, maybe, Night Elves would NEVER, under any circumstances, join the Horde for the very recent events of Teldrassil. So, to solve this, if you made a Night Elf on the Horde, they would be an Undead Night Elf risen by Syl and crew (as already seen). Likewise, maybe Blood Elves could have an option for blue eyes and be referred to as “High Elves” and be listed as such, and these could be High Elves under Vereesa.

Just a thought. Locking customizations under factions could be the new incentive to play a specific faction. Of course, there could still be more options for both factions regardless, but maybe customizations that made you look like another subrace would be faction specific.

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Dark Rangers are not Night Elves. They’re the NPCs that were around before.

No like i know there are some Dark rangers who are like undead high elves, but after teldrassil, some NIGHT ELVES were made into dark rangers so the undead night elves could be Horde.

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Which has been critiqued and to me may be the dumbest Story of the Year.

A) They never explained how they were raised (before it was limited to humans)
B) They never explained why raised Night Elves would suddenly join the Horde that outright killed them
C) Being undead doesn’t mean one is stuck with the Horde or bust

Best to let this little story die and the elves involved with it. What will be next? Draenei and Dwarves? Let’s go ahead and just have undead versions of every race the Horde doesn’t have yet!

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Jeez… the amount of turmoil and chaos a single youtuber can cause with spreading a false rumour

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No matter how silly the story may be, having Undead Night Elves and High Elves as faction exclusive customizations to Horde Night Elves and Alliance Blood Elves only adds content, not take away. I get where you’re coming from, but to just ignore they exist instead making them customization options for Horde Night Elves would only hurt the story more instead of giving it a chance to improve.

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Ask forsaken fans how they feel about Calia potentially taking the forsaken to share with the Alliance.

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No more elves.

Thanks.

Nightborne and Void Elves already do that, without further pissing off a fan base that has largely quit the game over terrible and awful story ideas like the ones you are putting forth.

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This. What the pretty night elf said.

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Reread my post.

This post is NOT talking about MORE ELVES. It’s talking about more CUSTOMIZATION for EXISTING ELVES to add variety. It is not asking for two new Allied races.

Nightborne and Void Elves are Allied races. I’m literally talking about more customizations for core races if races were no longer faction bound.

You’re either misunderstanding everything I’m saying, or ignoring it.

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I read this part very clearly. To hell with the dumb idea of ‘horde night elves’. the horde can sit on a cactus.

Once again, this is under the context that the races are no longer faction bound.

I am convinced you misunderstood me.

Night Elves from the Alliance would NEVER join the Horde. So, if the races were no longer faction bound, the solution to this would be the undead Night Elves already risen. So, instead of making them a new Allied race, you would click on the regular Night Elf, click Horde, and they would have skin and face options similar to Death Knights.

Once again, this is under the context that the races are no longer faction bound. It would explain how Night Elves would join the Horde. They would be the Undead Night Elves. This is to explain something that, if Blizzard is doing, would kinda be dumb. With my idea of making Horde Night Elves have to be the undead ones, it makes sense.

So yeah, I tried to explain. I literally agree with you, which is why I proposed this idea. I think you actually read everything and completely misinterpreted it.

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  1. Sylvanas gained some creepy new powers, whos knows how long shes had to keep it under wraps.

  2. Night Elves were forsaken by Elune when they died so they are driven by anger and revenge. When you break a persons faith it destroys who they used to be.

  3. True, see Amazing undead Priest man in the order hall i cant place atm. Allonsus Fowl! thats him.

  4. Who are you to critique story? Its all subjective ofc but you are literally trying to get an Alliance version of the Blood Elf. Not a Blood elf just a version of it. Then you wanna slap a new and improved sticker on it and resell it like this is a gamestop.

If im honest i kinda like Dark Rangers and would be ok with the Undead Nelves. I can just see what missing flesh and exposed bone would look like on one. Its a great pic.

So once again, to hell with that terrible idea. The Horde can sit on a cactus. You are missing the point I’m making. At no point in time should there ever be any night elf, living or undead, with a filthy horde logo by it.

To be honest, the Forsaken are still undead citizens of Lordaeron. It makes complete sense for Calia to lead at least some of them who still cling to their lives, like that tide sage in the Horde War Campaign.

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Against whom exactly? Because Elune isn’t the one who killed them.
That’s the whole point. They should be trying to hunt Slooveenie down and kill her, not joining her and the Hordde.

I am a consumer critiquing a product just like all the other players here.

Oh and Blood Elves are a Horde version of a High Elf, you got it backward.

Of course you would… Well, I don’t and I hope that they don’t end up muddying the forsaken by sharing them with the Alliance and Night Elves with the Horde. I am sure when it’s all said and done forsaken will be secure but Night Elves won’t though so have no fear.

Against Elune,. Tyrande, Malfurion, any NE leaders really. That also spans to the Alliance. They felt deserted and when people feel betrayed its not unheard of to join the other side. See old humpy in 300, spurned by society and his military leader he joins the other side.

It’s not, Blood Elves are High Elves, the majority and only playable ones are on the Horde. Its the only thing that matters. You have to mount a successful pitch to Devs for access, not the other way around.

You’re a hypocrite.

How can you want High Elves then? undisputed fact. The High Elf story continued through the main plotline of the High Elves being renamed and joining the Horde.

The MAIN plotline, MAIN MAIN MAIN. Highlighted for your convienence.

But you balk at anyone else wanting X race for the Horde? That’s incredibly hypocritical of you.

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And as Ion has said “if you want to play a High Elf then roll Horde”.

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Again, it sounds like those NPCs are idiots if that’s the case because Elune and Tyranduh aren’t the source of their woe. If they had starved to death because Elune and Tyranduh and the Alliance left them to starve and the Horde didn’t play a role in it then you’d have a point. She and the Horde murdered them.

You need to brush up on your lore. High Elves came first. Blood Elves were High Elves just like Trolls came before Night Elves.

Because Alliance had High Elf NPCs long before Horde had Blood Elves and have continued to have them ever since. Blood Elves are a spin off of the original, not the main course.

If Night Elves existed as Horde NPCs or Forsaken as Alliance NPCs back in vanilla then this conversation would be going a different direction.