I think I may have proved WOW is Pay to Win

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Everyone has a different definition of what “winning” is in WOW.
I have a few myself.

However, for me, winning was becoming a mount vendor and AH Powerhouse so that I could generate gold with the least possible amount of work.

I started playing on Valentines Day! I’m new.
I spent my 1st 2 weeks exploring Mulgor with a Tauren Shaman and the Ghostlands with a Blood Elf Mage.

When I learned about the AH (like a month in) I found it fascinating. I am an eBayer IRL. What was the problem though? I had no jobs, no materials, and no gold.

I ended up creating 5 Alliance and 5 Horde Alts and maxing out every profession without knowing proper market prices or using TSM.

How did I do this? I played 16 hours a day with double XP.
I bought $400, or about 2.3 million gold in tokens.
I skilled up every job for most expansions on 7 of my 10 alts.

I just wrote down the cost of every item I made.
I relisted it OCD style for the same cost I made it for + 5%.
When I started studying the job system I became very frustrated at how useless old jobs from old expansions were.
I spent almost 1 million + gold in training.
I am still trying to auction things off at cost 3-4 months later.

That said, I learned that in this weird universe that is WOW, materials often cost more than the crafted goods people use (or don’t)

I also learned that craftable pets, mounts and mount related materials will give you the most gold for you time if you play the market right and diversify.

I am now selling Jade, Sunstone, Sapphire, Ruby and Black Panthers.
I am also selling Sky Golems, Mechano-Hogs, Mekigneers, Sky Rocket, Geo World Spinners, Flying Machines, and I’ve been known to camp Nok-Karosh.

I am now on the endless search to get Vial of the Sands – and next I’m getting that crazy looking Dog mount from Legion.

I spent 1 million gold on training in 3 weeks.
1 million gold on materials.
I’m now up 2 million in only 5 months of playing.
5 months.

Without that 2.3 million gold – it would have literally taken me YEARS to get where I am right now.

For what I define as winning.
WOW is pay to win.
The Spirit of Harmony is life – it’s connected to 8 mounts it will never lose it’s value.

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I think that you may have a WoW addiction and should probably seek help. I’m glad you’re having fun, though.

Reread this. I hope things get better for you.

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I read 16 hours a day and spent 400 dollars.

All I needed to see.

Delete thread please

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Ok

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(leaves a little tray of cookies and a number for a local support group for people addicted to video games)

:cookie:

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The only thing you proved is that you have a serious problem. PS, what did you win?

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That’s a bad investment friend

I can’t even give those things away.

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Well I am still new, I’m learning – and I’m in quarantine so I have the time.

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What did you win at?

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bro log out and chill

that’s absurd

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My point is – I would have never been able to do this without a 2.3 million gold loan from my daddy.

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What did you win at though?

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I don’t know, I feel smart, and I may win a Brutasaur?

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Spending 5 million gold on a gold sink mount is winning… how?

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pretty sure you could

get those 10 alts to 120 and there’s plenty of things to acquire and sell, plus the free 2k from emissaries every now and then, which should be repeatable on multiple characters

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People always get mad when I bring it up but WoW technically became P2W when they introduced the level boost in MoP, given leveling in an MMORPG is a core element, paying real money to completely skip it counts in the definition.

Obviously not as harmful as mobile game P2W like buying exclusive items etc but it definitely falls under the umbrella.

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So I can undercut other people’s mounts while questing?

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The mount is sold from a vendor, a set price… until SL anyway, not sure how you undercut that.

Anyway everything you mentioned can be done without the AH mount. My paladin for instance, his hearthstone is set in Orgrimmar, right next to an AH and a Bank.

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Grats on winning your version of the game!

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Yeah, that’s what I’m doing now – I have 2 or 3 main auctioneers.

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