I summon kennie to fulfill your oath

I hope you’re not insinuating that I made the list

No, it was made by a 69rank 1 youtuber and well known carry seller. Probably

Thank you for the freeist arena skirm box of the season, absolutely crushing you was a pleasure

Tbh I trolled the “ret is just fine your just mad it’s not so hard to play” a little bit in 10.0.7. I got some pretty angry responses.

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How are you approaching this tier list. Because while intuitively it makes sense…

the idea of skill cap has some nuance to it; while rogue skill cap will prob never be truly met by a human. Arcane is up there prob just because it has a high skill floor.

Difficult to get off the ground (one school, with main spell being a channel for ex) and pilot is not is the same as decision making and setup rogue requires if that makes sense

Based on the “cap” assuming “perfect play” at the highest possible level.

100%. And part of that, I think, are because some classes just have more tools. Magnus and blizzo are two incredible players and easily the best warriors in NA and EU, but no matter how talented they are at warrior, they’re not going to be able to do things that a perfect mage or rogue could do.

Looking at whazz on rogue, or kubzy on arcane mage are the two best examples I can think of.

I remember watching a tournament finals games on hook point where it was rogue/lock/disc vs ww/ele/hpal.

Whazz sprints out as the enemy team runs up, he hooks back to dodge an earth grab, steps in and says, “just do damage, ill cc everything” and he saps ele, cheaps monk, blinds hpal, shadowstrike monk, eviscerate monk, re cheap monk, says “okay dot ele now and coil off 1 more cheap”, kidneys ele, recheap monk, gouge healer as monk gets coiled, hits ele, then dances on healer.

Chan, whaz, and mehh spent 0 offensive cds and ended up getting all three trinkets, karma, and stone bullwark totem because he literally made the game a 3v0 AND did it in such a way where it was insanely easy for his team to follow up. Chan is an insane warlock, but that dude couldve carried a 1500 team to win there vs some of the best players in the world because all they had to do was apply dots and dps whoever was stunned.

Obviously map plays a part in this, and you can really only do that on a small map and they all misplayed for being close and in the open together, but only a class like rogue can do that.

I don’t have any recent examples of arcane mage, but watch/play vs kubzy and you’ll see it’s a night-and-day difference between any other high glad or even r1 mage.

Why is aff at high skill cap but you just made a post saying it’s problematic because it’s basically just press 123 and port on cooldown

skillcap =/= skillfloor

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