I still haven't forgiven blizzard for removing dragonflight Chromie Quest of Alexstraza

the whole polemic that happened during that time concerning this quest of chromie just exposes the moral hypocrisy of people.
players have been sent in the past by the bronze dragonflight many times to enable horrible events to occur that would lead to terrible things to happen, so that the story would follow its correct course.
You help arthas in stratholme, you help Medivh open the dark portal… to enable those things to happen, is also to enable what comes after, do you guys know the horrible things the scourge did? if you go to naxxramas right now, the ambience sound is of people screaming due to torture.
the path of glory where the old horde was passing through the dark portal to invade azeroth, was made of the bones of the innocent draenei they slaughtered which were so many due to the genocide of the draenei, do you guys knew that?

but a chromie quest about going back to the past so that alexstraza would keep making more dragons with her consorts so the orcs could use them for their army, that is the line that make people go mad???

depictions of rape are generally worse to people than depictions of murder. It’s a bit weird yeah, obviously murder is the objectively worse crime, but we don’t choose what makes us feel uncomfortable, emotions aren’t rational but they’re still real and they matter. If it makes a bunch of people uncomfortable than it’s probably the right decision to remove it.

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It was a horrific event that isn’t a major point of the story yet here you are writing paragraphs about wanting to see it. That is disturbing.

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thats a good argument, i like it

if you think about it, wouldn’t be more disturbing that people want wars and genocide to unleash on wow so people may have fun with the warcraft feeling in the game?

Given the context of Blizzard? Removing it was one of the smartest decisions they made at the time.

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i mean to be fair… considering the horrible things they have been exposed to about with women inside the company in the past, i doubt this whole thing would make any difference.

What does that have to do with it? I don’t know anything about them, but I don’t think it really matters lol.

If they’re just as bad, I hope Blizz corrects in the same way.

simple… once your reputation gets damned, what’s the point on trying to protect it any further?
blizzard already screwed up in the past, its not like removing anything in the game that would reaffirm or make fun of things would make players think any better of blizzard.

Lol so you’re telling me that because female employees were ALSO doing terrible things, they should’ve kept sexual assault content in WoW? I hope I’m understanding that wrong.

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Yeah

Not to mention people would prefer if this event could be retconned away
That, with the other draconic rape victim who stars as a boss in the nexus dungeon, should really just be erased and removed

Lore like that is a byproduct of the old frat boy culture blizzard where all male characters are badass and all female characters are victims

They could have, and should have, just left it at orcs enslaving red dragons and not detail anything about breeding. Making Alexstrasa a rape victim doesn’t serve any narrative purpose, especially when the writers aren’t capable of handling sensitive subjects like rape

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no, thats not what i meant… what i meant was, removing stuff in the game won’t make players think blizzard is a good guy now. Making the effort therefore pointless.

Replace “wars and genocide” with “rape” then say it again without looking like a creep.

“…people want rape to unleash on wow so people may have fun…”

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isn’t funny how wars and genocide in the phrase doesn’t make us look like creeps? think about it =p

You are making a moral argument FOR rape. It’s disgusting.

This is also a good point

Even if they hire writers who are capable of writing about sensitive subjects such as rape and handling it well… the context of WoW being a game made by blizzard means blizzard would be walking on thin ice with jackhammers tied to their feet if they ever touched the subject of rape again

Rape is a sensitive subject that can be fine to explore if it’s handled with care. But blizzard never handled it well, and it’s in everyone’s best interest if it is a subject never touched by them again.

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i’m not making a moral argument… what i’m saying is, if you’re watching people getting stabbed with knives doesn’t bother you, the don’t get bothered when you watch people punching each other.
yes the example is different, but thats the point… genocide and war is a BIGGER EVIL, and its presence does not affect you at all.
i seriously don’t understand how you people don’t get this, your skin crawl over a lesser form of evil (that is still very bad), but a worse one (genocide and torture) is just whatever for you… and you’re here criticizing me while ignoring the obvious elephant in the room.

But if a Blizzard employee stabbed someone or committed a violent murder, would you be ok with that being hinted at in-game as a plot point?

Your entire post is about why we didn’t get a rape story by trying to equate it to war on a moral level. If you can’t see how this is wrong then I really hope you have no women in your life.

Refer to what others said earlier

Genocide might objectively be more evil but rape makes people more uncomfortable.

It’s not about what evil action is more evil… it’s about what makes people uncomfortable and what doesn’t

And this is blizzard we are talking about. A company with a history of sexually harassing female coworkers, a history they are trying to escape.

Why else do you think dragonflight was uncharacteristically progressive for blizzard with lots of lgbt characters and even quests that explore progressive themes like the one with Emberthal refusing to have a visage form being an allegory for trans people? Or where half the bad guys and heroes are strong women, like the Qurashi? Blizzard desperately wants to escape their problematic past. The most progressive WoW expansion releasing right after the allegations came out is not a coincidence, Dragonflight was a response to that

Blizzard’s past is reason enough for them to never explore the theme of rape again

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to be honest… if that happened, if they removed it from the game I would think they never truly cared, but they removed it for the sake of preserving their image, but if they hinted that in-game as a plot point, i would read that as a message saying “I don’t give a damn”.
either way, i do believe they don’t give a damn… the only difference, is that taking it away they are preserving their image (what companies do), and to show in the plot they are just showing the middle finger