I still hate Torghast

RNGfest with trivial rewards. Huge contrast with Horrific Visions where you had agency and chances at meaningful rewards.

One of the all time worst features of WoW, IMO.

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I think it had a chance to be great, but it’s taken so long for it to get to acceptable people are done with it myself included.

There’s huge discrepancy between good and bad runs, and huge disparity between powers depending on what class you are. I agree as well the rewards suck, and the wings/mobs are all extremely similar.

I really miss horrific visions as well, they were so damn cool. They were a great addition and an awesome solo content thing.

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Feel like I’m in a Horrific Vision reading this.

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Gimme visions any day, least there was a point to doing it and you couldn’t just afk after getting a busted power and blast through terrible mechanics.

Down with choregast!

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Torghast is worse than Island expedition and Warfronts combined

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If it was a gearing path from the get go, it’s acceptance would have been higher. As it is, it’s a slog to mediocrity and empty accomplishment.

If they made it gearing, at least the complaints about it would have been different. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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I think it’s actually a great feature but the reward structure (or lack thereof) is a load of crap.

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Difference is, once you have your legendary, you don’t even have to look at Torghast. Whereas Visions were pretty much mandatory for everyone who wasn’t already decked out in max gear with the best possible corruptions.

Torghast could have been a lot more interesting, but I think it would have to have been something fundamentally different, and not just a slightly different type of dungeon.

Something like…I don’t know…a Diablo-style dungeon crawler just with WoW art assets. Would have given them an opportunity to come up with powers/abilities/synergies that would be less practical to pull of as a simple addition to the existing toolkits of our classes. But at that point, you may as well just make a new game entirely.

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I’ve paid for hades. jsut to play it. fun times…

then you get this steaming of something. its part of the 15 for a sub. and unless a gun is pointed at their head…some like me don’t go there.

The only thing Torghast has been good for is doing the daily quest on my army of alts for easy 75-100k XP per day for little time investment. Beyond that, it’s a trash addition to the game.

Maybe if it actually had some rewards for the time investment, I’d care about it. Not worth my time and effort outside of giving free XP to my alts.

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I find it fine. Most people now are so over geared they can easily solo it and get 4 to 5 stars do it in a groups and it’s real fast

Also, you only need to do it for the soul ash/cinders. Just get enough to make 2 legaderys (caz next patch you can wear 2 at the same time) and never touch it again

It’s hard enough finding group members for Torghast without all the level requirements as well as requiring everyone in the group to be present at the time of queueing.

If you guys ever do something like Torghast in future, please respect players’ time, consider queue times and ease off on the group requirements for said content.

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Ya, I loved HV, nothing said fun like disconnecting and losing your run and not being able to re-enter without grinding currency to enter.

What rewards again? a bunch of DE fodder unless you got a decent piece of gear with a good corruption?

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The low bar that makes one say Horrific visions were good is an indication on how bad things are.

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But…

Torghast is solo content

On topic, Torghast has the potential to be the most fun thing they’ve ever made. They just need to have more over the top powers and whatnot

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It can be solo-ed but it goes much faster and smoother in groups. My point still stands.

Faster and more efficient mobility are needed (instantly portalled to locations when queuing up from Custom Premades type groups for bosses, rares and rare mount farming).

My problems with Torghast:

  1. If you intend this to be repeat content, you gotta let me build something. Meaning, I should’ve been able to build a talent tree looking feature that allowed me to grind my way into getting EXACTLY the anima powers that I want to use every time. That way, RNG doesn’t play a factor on high runs and I can actually have fun.

  2. After capping Ash and Cinder, it should drop a currency I can exchange for either Conquest or Valor, so I can continue to have a reason to run it as a solo player and gear up so I can attempt higher ladders.

  3. There should be at least double the Cosmetics rewards we currently have.

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I despise choreghast. But even I have to acknowledge that chorghast is vastly superior to the boring garbage that was horrific visions. Anyone who’s grinded out the horrific vision mount knows how bad they were.

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That completely defeats the purpose of the “roguelike” thing they were going for…

Besides, given that there are only a handful of powers that actually effect your playstyle, you do end up with very similar builds by the end.

With all 5 masks.