I see some problems with people assuming phase 5 and 6 are going to be easy

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  1. half of your raid is not going to be sober unlike when we were all 14 years old
  2. ah prices are going to make it extremely difficult to be ready week in and week out
  3. i personally as well as many others will not let anyone get to port up through naxx with out trying to purge them of their precious raid buffs
  4. guilds are going to be constantly reshuffling malcontents
  5. see above
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It’s going to be faceroll.

This isn’t your daddy’s overtuned pirate server.

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thanks supertroll. can you explain to me the kill rate on kel thuzad was in 2006? and dont say its because everyone quit because BC is coming out because thats supposedly the same game plan

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None of these have anything to do with how trivial the content will be once you’re in the raid. It will be like BWL where it will go down in 20 minutes by turbonerds, players / guilds that are not god awful will fully clear in ~ a month and have it on farm by 2 months.

Stop trying to make the game seem more difficult than it is. People didn’t play classic for the difficulty of the content. The content altogether is better and more rewarding without being mechanically difficult like a mythic retail raid.

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thanks broseidan for your input. yes the top 1percent will be fine.

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pve server. kekw

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Mmhm yes, phase 5/6 will serve as a useful distraction as TBC Classic is in development :tophat: :face_with_monocle:

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We had enough DPS in MC to kill patchwerk, I’m almost positive any raiding guild who is decent will have it cleared week 1.

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My guild is usually stoned and or drunk. We have fun, and who cares about the details, the point about playing a video game is to have fun.

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people said MC wasn’t possible to clear week 1 since you “needed” 2 tranq shots, clearly they were wrong.

people said BWL would be a brick wall for guilds since it required threat management, but all but the most casual guilds are clearing it pretty easily.

unless AQ is actually a brick wall for some guilds, I highly HIGHLY doubt naxx will be hard.

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Look… We all know that phase 5 and 6 will be harder.

But after seeing what we can all do with the current content, I think it’s a pretty big mistake to presume that they will not be “easy.”

They’ll be at most 25% harder.

Maybe people will have to actually be in discord.

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People on these forums don’t know what they’re talking about regarding AQ and Naxx.
I keep reading ‘steamroll in a few hours after gates open’. Yes, by top guilds/ guilds whose leadership have vanilla pserver experience. Now, your average guild that clears BWL in 1h - 2h? it’ll take them quite a few resets to fully clear it, it’ll be quite fun watching average guilds doing C’thun.

People are not taking into consideration/don’t understand we’ve been doing MC and BWL in 1.12 gear and talents, which were meant for AQ and Naxx. Your 1xxx dps in current raids doesn’t mean much. The gear we currently have will finally match the raid difficulty. Also raiding gets expensive and time consuming, guilds composed of mostly raidloggers that don’t care about anything will get a reality check.

I’m not saying these raids are super difficult and impossible to clear. Guilds will eventually get through them, especially with all the videos and guides out there, but it’s not gonna be the steamroll fest everybody thinks it’ll be for your average guild. As someone who played quite a few vanilla pservers it was pretty common seeing guilds falling apart after the aq patch, even on ‘easy servers’ with blizzlike values. It’s usually after the aq patch stage pservers start to die.

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Pservers were overtuned.

This is well known by now.

Even average guilds in half bwl gear per-raider will down AQ40 in a week.

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You didn’t read the last lines. Not all pservers were overtuned, the latest vanilla pservers were actually considered ‘easy’ because they tried to get as close as possible to the actual values aka blizzlike. Even on those servers, guilds falling apart was not unusual.

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Whatever.

I play in a guild where people aren’t in discord and half the raid is meme specs. We clear BWL in 50 minutes or so, week after week.

I think the playerbase can handle it.

At worst, we’d (gasp) have to all get in discord.

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‘https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/server/rankings/5062/1002#metric=speed&partition=2&faction=1’

Doesn’t look to me like ‘50m or so’. That, and you mentioning your members not being in discord during raids makes your guild a candidate for the kind of guild that will get slapped by a reality check the hardest. Fortunately you have plenty of time to improve and fix things.

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That’s a weird link infested with spyware.

Use warcraftlogs like everyone else.

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It was a gyazo screenshot but here you go :joy: ,scroll all the way down
‘https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/server/rankings/5062/1002#metric=speed&partition=2&faction=1’

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That was an alt run.

I could see why you’d think what you think, though.

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Its going to be easy. Literally every prediction people claimed about Classic has been false since launch.

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