And even though I’ve seen the cinematic and already knew how much of a bad B Jaina and Gelbin are compared to like ALL horde leaders, I had no idea of the SCOPE of the invasion of Dazar’alor. Horde side you see the Dark Iron attack on the northern side in the Zocalo and it’s pretty brutal. They seem to delight in killing trolls who are just civilians but hey that’s Dark Irons. But to see it from the main front, the main offensive at the dock. It looked like freaking D Day! The Alliance really blew the crap out of a whole lot more than the zandalari fleet. Seeing all the gnomish planes flying around shooting missiles at buildings while we stormed the pier and killed everything including all their dinosaur pets made me feel pretty awesome. I don’t know why this wasn’t received as well as I think it should have been. At the time I was Horde so I was like “well dang they outsmarted us and blew up our fleet that sucks” but the Alliance absolutely dominated Zandalar. With ease and because of great strategy.
Revenge for Teldrassil? No. That would be burning Thunder Bluff to the ground. But an unquestionable victory that even ended in fooling the Horde the way they were fooled to go to Nazmir? Yes and it was awesome to see and participate in. Thoughts?
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Fair warning this thread is going to turn into an absolute #+_& show.
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This will be interesting…
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Yuh. It certainly happened.
the easy fix here is either switch to the real edgy side (the horde)
or use your common sense and blame the writers because this is their circus they created.
“pls make the alliance have edgy stories too” 
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I think the raid was well received, it can be argued it was the most fun raid of bfa. Really loved the music and it was fun raiding dazar’alor as alliance.
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Yet somehow, you all insist on telling everyone you’re the good guys.
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BfDA is one of the highlights of BfA.
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Compared to the horde they absolutely are.
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Hypocrisy. Hypocrisy everywhere.
Where’s Buzz Light-year…
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Didn’t Anduin state we shouldn’t become monsters before the big fight funny enough? 
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Anduin needs to catch an arrow to the throat.
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I’m just saying it’s funny that it wasn’t consistent.
…the horde side has it worse though.
Anduin preaches to turn the other cheek and let the Horde do what it wants. His failure to prepare the Alliance for potential war with the Horde lead to many deaths.
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It was a fun raid, but tactically I had many questions. Like:
Why did the Alliance further deplete their already depleted forces with a suicide mission to Nazmir? The Battle for Lordaeron showed that canonically void elfs can portal forces in and out of places, so why not send a bunch of velf decoy teams to keep the Zandalari chasing phantoms?
Why, if the detonator had to get so close to the docks, didn’t they send Mechatorque and the detonator in on a submarine while, again, sailing vessels acted as decoys?
Why was SHAW there, instead of an actual military commander?
And most importantly, who the heck thought attacking the Zandalari would do anything BUT push them into the arms of the Horde?
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The raid was weird because it was definitely an Alliance victory, but then we all go home and Anduin is being Sadboi McDepresso to try and balance out the win or something.
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The Alliance aren’t allowed to see if they won - like how we, “won” the warfronts.
I don’t think that would be revenge. Tauren (at least from what I saw in the game) had no part in Teldrassil, and if not for Baine, the two factions would’ve never made peace or joined forces. We’d be just as bad if we took it out on Tauren, especially since they have more in common with NE, culturally, than pretty much any other race in the game.
Revenge, for me, is Nathanos and Sylvanas. No one else.
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If anything i would argue it was the Alliance biggest mistake of the entire expansion. They had no reason to attack the Zandalari and the attack didn’t really accomplish anything except giving the horde another ally. The Horde and the Zandalari came out stronger than before the battle. While the Alliance just took looses and didn’t gain anything.
And then there was the final part of the raid where the Horde comes back from Nazmir to help and absolutely curbstomps the Alliance. It wasn’t even a battle, it was slaughter.
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/shrugs
I’m not sure if we would’ve seen a change if he did. I suspect half the dev team wanted that middle ground to slide the horde out of this war as the writing required a heavy load of time-- much like who really supported Sylvanas’s views? Baine? Lorthemar? Thalyssra?