I quit my holy priest after 20 years, here's why:

Classes Priest
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Heal and Flash Heal feel too weak for their cast times. Spamming these hard cast heals and barely seeing any results feels terrible

Our passive healing effects like Prayer of Mending, Trail of Light and Renew are so weak they simply can’t be relied on/played around in M+. Putting these effects on someone before they take damage does not actually do anything to “take care of them” or let you focus elsewhere for a moment. That person will usually still need a lot of direct healing as if you hadn’t put any HoTs on them at all

Oracle’s Prayer of Mending buffs are not very useful in M+, they usually just end up in more unused PoMs - feels horrible to see 5+ stacks of PoM expiring on people all the time

We have no good ways to consistently spread Renew in M+. Lightwell has a long CD and a long ramp. The only alternative is the talent that applies Renew when you cast Sanctify, and relying on a ground targeted AOE heal to spread your HOT feels HORRIBLE. When using this build, every time I cast Sanctify I have to double check which players it hit to see who got Renew and who didn’t. We have no reliable way to spread Renew

Lightwell is the most popular talent option for spreading Renew, but the talent that increases Renew (and Trail of Light) healing is inexplicably not linked to Lightwell - despite being right next to it! Meaning, it’s basically impossible to make a good build that takes Lightwell to spread Renew as well as the talent that that actually increases Renew’s healing. Please connect these 2 talents

Why is Apotheosis on the GCD? Holy’s whole thing is being a reactive healer and yet if someone suddenly takes a ton of damage, we have to wait for the GCD after using our main CD before we can heal them. Also, resto shaman instantly heal everyone when they enter Ascendance, why can’t Holy get that for Apotheosis?

I have been saying this since literally season 1 of Shadowlands: why won’t you just give holy priests a Spiritwalker’s Grace-type ability? I promise you, letting holy priests cast while moving for 10 seconds every 2 minutes will not break the game in any way.

The empowered Heals from Lightbringer do not feel strong or satisfying enough to have so many talents based around them. Instant cast Heals from Apotheosis and the Oracle tree could be turned into something better

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My lasting words oracle build is the most beautiful build for M+ I’ve ever used. :person_shrugging:

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Which part of my post is this in response to?

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Yeah, they can. Before this rework, I proposed that Holy Words have a 30 second cooldown instead and then they put in Holy Celerity. Holy Celerity might be made baseline at some point at increased effectiveness.

Biggest hurdle for this is the “bug” that counts the 2 stack as greater than the 7 stack if you cast before the timer starts. Yeah, it could be buffed. I think a better solution is to have more ways for Prayer of Mending to trigger than just actual damage. A talent that allows renew ticks to trigger Prayer of Mending with or without it moving to a new target would be interesting.

Lasting Words. Trying to rely on Renew as your only HoT is a bad gambit, better to use both mastery and Renew.

I agree with this. Probably should be off GCD

Copying from other classes kind of lessens the priest for me. I’d rather Desperate Prayer for Holy Priest also apply Guardian Spirit just to the Holy Priest in addition to it’s usual effect. Will give a death protection and seems good.

You have to be using them with Resonant Words and weaving them with Holy Words. Heal with boosts from Lightweaver and Resonant Words can hit as hard as a Holy Word Serenity that has no boosted talents.

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All of it and some of it.

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I agree with some of your points, but I am loving this iteration of holy. Absolutely my favorite version in a long time.

The Talent nodes around Lightwell and Lasting Words really need to be swapped around. Trying to build around renews can be quite awkward. And Apotheosis should likely be off the GCD.

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No worries, cheers.