I don’t remember the community being so toxic and so full of real life vitriol.
Yes there was PVP, a lot of it, and yes there was plenty of smack talk to go around, but most of it was harmless. Mostly I recall A lot of guild versus guild action, and there were some real fun grudges and wars, but no one went at each other like I’m seeing now.
Maybe the gaming community as a whole has changed for the worst, maybe I’m just getting too old for this, but I really think the classic experience would be so much better if people remembered it’s just a game.
You realize that the age of techonology Cough Social media Cough and the improvements of the internet is the social killer of everything? Not only video games but from other aspects of life. The gaming community will always have two-three sides, the side that takes it serious, the other that are complete trolls, and possibly an in-between. It’ll never change. You just have to deal with it.
The game was also new to everyone… this is a reboot of a game that has been around for 15 years, the game has been played by people the entire time… every new game the community is better then an older game…
So… killing people on a PVP server is… “toxic” Why didn’t you carebears roll on a PVE server?
And I don’t care about your pathetic anecdote about the “old times” and how everyone locked arms and hugs each other. Straight up lies. You are telling me the blood thirsty PK’ers from Ultima and Camelot didn’t murder everyone they saw?
People relate their ability to zerg to 60 farm the best gear and corpse camp other players as “skill”. The only validation they get from their time investment is an advantage over other players. Then when they have that advantage along with 20 other people rolling in a mass killing everything in sight they call that skill. Then tell you “PVP happened on a PVP server”, when in fact, it did not.
All those edgy teens grew up into snarky, sarcastic, callous, little men. You can imagine that not the most successful people play games like WoW, so they are vehement and cruel because of their lack of success. It directly reflects on the forums and comment sections on reddit. For every 1 well thought out comment, you get 10-20 vitriolic comments, which are regurgitated over and over ad nauseum. Pretty much, American culture at it’s finest (with a sprinkle of rude UK’er).
The people who know how to PVP and how the honor system works, do not camp flight paths. I’m hoping when they realize that killing the same guy 10 guys trying to get to BRD over and over again over the course of an hour doesn’t get them the results they want and will do something else with their time.
So you think 40 people camping a flight path is even remotely compelling gameplay for either side? Unless you are on the giving end and just get a kick out of ruining someone else’s game for multiple hours? I believe they call people like that sociopaths.
It’s a combination of the zoomers playing and the internet in general has just gotten more toxic. Just make like minded friends online and add them to your friend list. Or find a guild with plesent people.
BRD fights were there before honor so I don’t really mind that part. What’s stupid is that people camping low level zones and griefing don’t realize they will just hurt server population by acting like that. They will be the first to cry when their server will get lower populations and higher BG queues because people will just stop playing for a while.
The reality is that the players were all the same - people are people, and that transcends time. There’s no difference in the number of goons in Classic WoW today than there were when the servers launched. The only difference comes down to familiarity with game systems and the sophistication of gaming communities.
I would guarantee that a larger percentage of the community of Classic have hit 60 than ever had in release WoW. Hordes of people have been non-stop farming dungeons for the past few months and are at pre-raid BiS or later (in many cases people have been farming raids for months too). When you’ve exhausted the content you intend to, you need to find new ways to occupy yourself.
Essentially, there are 2 playstyles for content consumption in Classic at this point.
Pre-Raid BiS gearing and never making the transition to raiding
Raid logging
Neither of these are heavily time consuming or have much content left for players who have been playing since release. What this all leads to is players having nothing better to do other than nonstop PvP. This phase release is at fault, not the players. Anyone who thinks its wise to release Honor and literally no other content is a buffoon.
TLDR: People are the same, but they’re progressed too much and have nothing left to do - so, they nonstop camp because it’s the only content that actually got delivered this patch. Phase 2 was rolled out by a buffoon.