I’ll put it bluntly, I suck.
I’m not entirely sure what I’m doing wrong, or should be doing, or right, or what to change.
Send the coast guard. Rip me apart.
Tonight’s logs for your viewing displeasure:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/P2DWdtL89vRhFKHr
17 cpm is abysmally low. (Took out the portion where you died.)
You aren’t using abilities enough and you’re using emerald blossom without ouroboros.
Soo your playing a build that requires a different playstyle then what you are doing.
With chrono you really want too echo a significant amount of people during downtime and when burst happen verdant embrace into spiritbloom. Basically you are trying too lifebind alot of people and burst with a spiritbloom.
Pres in raid plays kinda like a disc priest.
Setup, burst, repeat.
You could also try out the engulf build and play it kinda derpily. Build for a big dream breath with ysera talent send a dream breath and when big raid dmg happens hit enfulf on a dreambreath target.
Will say though you guys also have a ton of healers for normal, there aint gonna be anything for a pres to heal in that.
When my raid does that junk i go dps, not even worth trying to deal with that.
The Emerald Blossom casts are mostly fat fingering. It’s on 3, echo is on 4.
Time to pick a different class then because I hated disc priest.
And yes, we have a ton of healers. We also have a ton of people that they won’t do anything about that just stand in stuff because fire’s warm. I’m not able to go dps, despite at this point wanting to. We didn’t get close to killing til we brought in that 7th healer.
The build I’m using there I was told to use by our aug. He suggested it because I was using a blossom build,. of which I preferred the playstyle of. But since our ranged like to stand out in azj’kahet proper during the raid instead of near the boss, clump healing strats don’t work.
I’m not the biggest fan of verdant embrace. It doesn’t heal for much and I can never see where it’s going to put me when I displace. I cannot track my targets placement on the battlefield that well. ie: I cannot go, “hey I need to heal George, he’s pretty low” and know where George is on the ground so I’m sure he’s not standing in fire, too.
Might try engulf. though I’m desperately trying to convince myself to not go warlock at this point lol. I put a lot of time so far into this character and it doesn’t help, I don’t roll well and I can’t heal M+ either… ugh. 
Appreciate the input though guys.
Verdant Embrace is to buff dream breath. You could just macro it to self and not worry about things.
For raid, you could replace emerald blossom with another echo bind.
You don’t cast VE on a target unless you know its safe. You can do it to yourself. The main reason is to basically transfer part of the heal to others via echo which puts the lifebind buff on the, so its: Echo a bunch of players, VE self, cast spiritbloom on self and spiritbloom xfers 100% to other players via lifebloom.
I see. I’ll give that a try too. I just really need to fix this because I’m pretty sure the raid leader wants me healing still. No matter how grumpy it’s making me.
I know we’re not great but it’s what I’ve got for now.
yeah pres is by and large a combo based healer with the popular builds. just throwing out heals here and there is going to wildly underperform. the echo centric build which does work better for spread out groups is as others have said get echo on all the peoples often with temporal anomaly and lifebinder then throwing out a big heal to spread around.
Spiritbloom doesn’t transfer 100% via lifebind though?
40%, modified by echo’s modifier if present.
Coastie checking in… hahaha for real though
Oh wow I have not been playing around VE at all lmao
Honestly at this point I’d personally leave the guild, especially if they are requiring you to play something you dont want to for a normal raid. Mythic? Maybe, but normal no way. I’ll play what i want in a normal raid.
P.S. if you do decide to quit your guild, mine is super friendly and willing to help when we can.
i have always wanted to heal, I tried healing as pres and did so bad at it I ended up creating a hunter to level. Im in the same boat as you but I actually want to heal haha.
Then keep trying to heal. You’ll get better and be able to do so.
The best way to learn to heal is to heal.
It may sound cliche, or like I’m being demeaning, but it’s not cliche/I’m not being demeaning. You aren’t learning to heal by playing a Hunter. You’ll learn to heal by healing. It’s a different gameplay mentality that takes time to develop, and you need enough time doing it to get it the ball rolling.
If you Echo up all the people you can, then Verdant Embrace, then Echo yourself, and then cast Spiritbloom it is a pretty decent chunk.
Also, for the OP, never underestimate things like spitting Echo on as many people as possible, Verdant Embrace, and Emerald Communion for those real oh heck moments. Though Rewind is also lovely.
But yeh, in an Echo build your bread and butter is basically setting up combos with Echo, and making a lot of use out of things like Lifebind and Spritbloom, and Dream Breath with Call of Ysera (also with Echo). Temporal Anomaly is your friend too. Not as great as a full power Echo, but wonderful if you are setting up Lifebind combos and still decent otherwise.
I second this.
Only started late in season in DF but enjoying it loads. I found that letting people know you are a new heals / still learning is most often positively received. Even asked for and received tips from many in raids. Watched many videos of builds and rotations. But the main thing that helped was just trying it. Give it a go, see what happens and trust yourself.
Went from 1 MW to playing Pres, Rsham and Rdruid on both horde and alliance now and having a blast
There are echo builds, consume flame builds, hybrids of the two. Those are a bit more complex to run and require more timing.
I’ve been having a lot of fun with my blossom builds if you want to give them a go. The Chronowarden variant is the laziest and most chill, while the Flameshaper version requires a bit more timing with dream breath/consume flame.
I’m too lazy to get imports for it so I’ll just gloss over it:
Both take blossom talents over echo talents. Then dream breath talents into cycle of life. Take Titan Gift (25% stronger spender with Essence Burst).
I always take mana on disintegrate. If you take stasis/grace period then you want to always temporal anomaly => reversion. Otherwise if you skip stasis and reversion talents you always temporal anomaly => living flame. Both give essence burst procs you feed into blossoms.
If running Chronowarden I prefer living flame spam and no reversion and taking flame breath healing talent, as well as spiritbloom CDR talent. And dream breath crits extension.
Gameplay looks like this:
Full flame breath and hold onto spreading flames buff. Pre verdant => dream breath on CD to have 28s hot out on people as much as possible. Spiritbloom on CD if 4 people need healing.
Use Essence bursts from the above on blossoms. If big aoe going out, send regular essence on blossoms along with Essence Bursts.
Send leaping flames living flame volley from fire breath for more EBs to feed into blossoms. Send temporal anomaly into living flame for EBs to feed into more blossoms. All 3 empower spells on CD again which is even more EBs for blossoms.
Then try to disintegrate after spending EBs if possible, for mana recuperation. If you take stasis you can just copy 3 blossoms and immediately send it and get like 3-4 cycle of life buds. Or stasis consume flame which is a little trickier (if flameshaper). Temporal anomaly into Lifebind even with weaker echo is still really good if you have multiple cycle of life’s up because they double dip on the Communion overhealing which is nice.
Its a very simple/reactive gameplay loop that pumps really well and has very strong mana longevity if played well and you dont blossom without EB too much. It won’t really do some of the broken burst hps that echo builds potentially can, but it’s very consistent high hps.
Its like holy priest vs disc with disc being the echo lifebind build.
Add my btag, i’ll personally walk you through, in its entirety, how to play pres in any game mode you want.
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You dont using verdant embrace for the healing, you use it for lifebind, the way you should be ramping is by spreading echoes, then when damage comes out verdant embrace to give all your echoes lifebind then cast a full charge spiritbloom. Dream breath should be used when you have spirit bloom on cd, echoes about to expire, or the dream breath buff about to fall off. If you arent able to down the bosses with 6 healers on normal, healing isnt the problem, its the dps failing at that pont