I miss SKB

Title says it all. SKB was one of the most satisfying and fun talents to play with and feels really bad to have it taken out back and shot. Frost fire synergized so well with it as a hero talent and it was just abandoned this season. Feels bad.

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Yeah it’s shame since as a result Frostfire has effectively been killed as a hero spec choice for Fire. I understand not having Anomaly grant Flash Freezeburn, but SKB seems like enough of an investment to reward synergizing with hero talents.

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I already don’t like the fact Fire spec is so heavily reliant on Combustion to do any meaningful DPS. The tier set doubled down on Unleashed Inferno synergy, and SKB took the backseat. Unfortunate.

I also find SKB to be counterintuitive to even use at all with Sunfury hero spec, tier set or not. Which is ironic because Sun King’s Blessing is meant to be a Kael’thas theme and Sunfury is pretty Blood Elf themed in nature. The only way to activate the Phoenix is to actually physically cast your Combustion cooldown— doesn’t just work on any Combustion activation proc.

SKB feels okay to use with Frostfire, you’re just going to lose a major chunk of raw DPS without Unleashed Inferno.

In my perfect world, I’d delete Unleashed Inferno, leave SKB where it is as a single end-cap node for the people that want it. Then buff and even out Fire’s baseline DPS to make up for the over-reliance on the Combustion cooldown in general.

Spending 90% of fights as Johnny Storm loses its fun-factor after a while.

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This is such a good description. Spamming IB pyro IB pyro was fun but is quickly getting boring. The fact the right way to play the spec is to save as much as possible for you’re combust and outside of it try to not use any procs is just sort of boring for a payoff that was cool for a bit but now just does not feel satisfying.

SKB just had this constant satisfying flow to it where balancing out everything was key and just made the spec feel satisfying to play the whole time.

I will agree and disagree. I do like the shot gun style. The problem is once you’re out of resources and you don’t have shifting. Waiting even that 30seconds of spamming fireball that does NO damage feels not fun at all and kills the spec for me

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Which is exactly why I think Unleashed Inferno is such an unhealthy talent for Fire. There’s quite literally no other choice. You either take Unleashed Inferno and function as a spec, or you don’t and now you’re 50% less DPS just 'cause :). Silly to me.

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Yeah, these moments of pure helplessness / FB spamming are just the worst. At least with SKB it felt like you were building up to something outside of Combust (even though that something was just Combust lol). I kind of still resent the resource nerf because now we intermittently just teleport back to vanilla and spam one button. Just wish there were some other mechanic/ability to play around with in these moments / outside of our only cooldown.

3 changes:

1: Back to 8 stacks instead of 10. This one is debatable, might be unnecessary, but i liked it more.
2: No hyperthermia mid skb for sunfury. Basically make it so if you have combustion currently up, sunfury cannot proc hyperthermia.
3: Make skb stack up to 2 max.

honestly we don’t need the SKB to stack twice just lowering the number to 8 from 10 would be an amazing buff. Does not help that this tier does not synergize w/ SKB at all though :frowning:

And might be a hot take but remove hyperthermia I hate it on UI as well. Like just spamming pyroblast is not fun.

It’s actually really important in this case due to things like hypherthermia and sunfury.

Would be a massive qol change for skb sunfury, and it might make it competitive with unleashed.