A lot of the super casual guilds fell apart half way into AQ - as is tradition.
Naxx wasn’t ever built to be raided by casual no consume guilds. It was built around the use of consumes and addons and was the blueprint for going forward with later encounters
I think you’d feel right at home in my guild. We’re far from high-tier raiders, but we still have fun and don’t enforce WBs, parses, consumables, or anything like that. Game is fun!
What makes a “dad guild” exactly? If it’s synonymous with “casual” its kinda backwards since most casuals are raiding way more a week than than I am at this point. We ask for full consumes and buffs… but we clear Bwl/AQ and Naxx in less time than most guilds spend in Naxx alone, often without even clearing it entirely.
Which is kind of the problem with the OP’s mentality. You don’t have to run Naxx, in fact there are plenty of raids going for MC up every evening. But if you do want to clear it… you’re either going to have to step up your standards a little or accept that if you ever do clear it, its only going to be after spending way more hours grinding it than any of the “hardcore” players… which is usually the point where people start to rethink their priorities.
God yes, I spent way too long trying to coach 3 guilds into doing the bare minimum for raiding and spent far more time and gold wiping to bosses with A mechanic. Now I raid 1 day a week and save countless consumables and can then do fun stuff with the guild or have a life outside whenever I want.
Casual raiding guilds are such a headache, now super speedrunning hardcore guilds are a different headache but there is an ocean of middle between those
Yea exactly. Everyone acts like theres no median between “buffs/consumes are lol” and guilds that will drop a person if they die once. When the reality is… that’s where most guilds exist.
Exactly this
I suspect you were never going to enjoy progression raiding but you’re just now realizing it because Naxx is the only raid in classic where it was a thing…
Usually these guilds do GDKPs for AQ40/BWL/MC to cover costs for Naxx. At least that is how it is on my server.
It’s kind of a good system because you can amass enough gold to buy something in a Naxx GDKP which is usually split up wings over different nights.
This is probably what happened. A lot of dad guilds got to AQ40 and hit a bit of a wall. Then you have a rift form between players who want to get more serious and players who want to stay causal. This rift eventually fractures the guild.
This said, I feel like the population of the game dropped off quite a bit during phase 5. I wonder how many people who quit were people who didn’t want to be “forced” into hardcore play.
We are the best dad guild in the world. I think most dad guilds have to focus on naxx and dont have time for more raids. We gdkp bwl and soft res aq40. We have one or two new play guilds but mcs are not very common at this point.
just going gdkp runs on your main, then run them on ur alt to get gear. Easy day. or lvl a skinner and sell rugged hides. hell they sell for 15-19g each on my server
My experience with Dad guilds is not that they’re casual or behind but that they don’t have as much time to play so don’t waste that time doing things that’s aren’t productive.
I’d suggest that you stop looking for a “dad” guild and look for a casual guild.
Dad’s have no patience for people wasting their time.
You’re pretty much right. I just didn’t enjoy farming for consumes every week and then raid logging with world buffs multiple times a week. It just wasn’t fun for me anymore.
See, again that’s kind of the difference between the “casual” guilds and any other type of even semi-serious raiding group including “dad guilds.” A casual guild shows up, goes to raids, clears content or not and tries again next raid day.
A serious guild asks for buffs and consumes because it increases the value of everyone’s time, but also has the structure to facilitate that. We have buff trains and people with instances so its not a free-for-all you have to start days in advance. We have groups that do GDKP runs to help provide at least the mandatory resistance pots to the raid. And we ask that everyone show up, reliably and with the knowledge/mindset/tools to clear the content. I don’t think that makes us “hardcore,” we just use our time efficiently…
I play basketball at a level that sometimes doesn’t even resemble competence… but when we’re playing I make a good faith effort. None of us are particularly serious but if someone showed up who kept kicking the ball and delaying the game… we’re probably not gonna let him play next time. Particularly when your time is at a premium, you want to get the most of it which means using it efficiently.
I’m in a dad guild, and we stopped raiding at the end of phase 5. Most of us had no interest in naxx, those that did are running with other guilds. We’re largely moved to playing other games or doing IRL stuff while we wait for TBC. Classic is fun but its nothing compared to how good TBC is, and knowing its around the corner, kind of killed our enthusiasm for classic.