I mean, it is kinda that bad for the Horde

I mean, look at the reactions to Baine (and some of it is earned). He’s pretty much the only Horde character that interacts with the Alliance semi-frequently and without notable violence.

Unlike my girl Thaly who just gave me a pony and a tabard and STABBED ME IN THE BACK.

I’m joking, but only because I’m 110% more upset about Mayla because I like her more and come on, the Nightborne had blood elf and orc parallels for days.

But would alliance players react that badly to having to work for Baine? I thought that was Solarion’s theory - that the reason why more horde characters aren’t used is so that alliance players don’t have to quest with them after BFA.

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I mean, I don’t recall too much kerfluffle about Baine’s Very Special Centaur Quest.

There was a little, but most of it was generalized grousing about how little sense it made to have Baine be turboracist against completely the wrong centaurs.

I did the quest on my troll first, though, so maybe my initial impression wasn’t super dramatic.

For SOME reason, I got tired of being a night elf main a few years ago.

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:dracthyr_sweat:
I am very stubborn, I guess.

Though I might make more Drakthyr once their classes are unlocked. I am super stoked to make a blue themed mage one.

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I wish I could get excited for potential new races like almost everyone else seems to. It’s not that I want to be some nerdy contrarian and I’d force myself to like other stuff if I could, but anything that catches my eye always seems to fall into the “never going to happen” category.

My big draw with this game is honestly my characters (well, that and a pretty good pvp setup and generally fun).

Favorites rotate, but I do enjoy squishing a new character in, getting their story down, getting a mog and mounts sorted, drawing them a few times… and then, if I’m honest, heading off to a comfy boots character or the next “fantastic” idea for a toon.

So when you give me a new species, class, or even a really good customization, it gets my brain fizzing.

Oh great, more dupe-stalking.

Yawn.

To be fair, you bring it upon yourself.

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Oh nice, let’s throw victim-blaming into the mix.

“”“Victim”“”.

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It’d be cool to see some Nightelves dislike Tyrande for her attitude to other elf races and some turn out to eventually & actually get along really quite well with Thalyssra :grin:

:diamonds: Lets say said-example Night-Elf’s name is Felaedryn:

{Felaedryn talking with Thalyssra}

Tyrande: “Felaudryn, come. I will not have you frollocking with the likes of these Horde mana-addicts! Nonetheless the ilk of which infest the city I once called home. Gather your belo–”

Felaedryn: “Silence your foul mouth you impudent wretch!”

Tyrande: “Excuse me!? I am your —”

Felaedryn: “Leader? You needn’t remind us. We are grateful for Amirdrassil, however it does not make you infallible to our people. You have ostracized elves against the voices of our people as a whole, merely claiming your own to speak for all.”

Tyrande: “You do not understand what y–”

Felaedryn: "Oh but I do understand. You see, I was a Highborne under the guidance of Mordent Evenshade. We were cast out by Malfurion & yourself for numerous millennia and had only rejoined our people together once more in the wake of the Cataclysm …

Tyrande: … Felae–

Then have Felaedryn close the argument with:

"Needless to say, we had kept in touch with our kind in spite of exile and even held secret-relationships between our peoples for thousands of years – Not that you would know. Your hand of acceptance to our people felt more forced in response to Garrosh’s aggression, than that of mere kindness.

The decision of moving past your indifference ultimately saved scores of innumerous lives during the burning of Teldrassil with our portals to helping save unfathomable numbers of our kind to escape the flames of war. I will not leave this Nightborne. To me she holds better values of our people than yourself. I will see back to our encampment when I alone see fit. Come Thalyssra, let us talk in a more … hospitable environment."

  • Having Felaedryn walk away with Thalyssra :triumph: :exclamation:
    … And also have the emote: {Thalyssra turns and pokes her tongue out at Tyrande} :joy:

Anyway, the more or less story of the above would be fantastic – Because ultimately it would create inner-conflict within the Alliance (Keeps things from being so dull) — and also help create some additional personalities & character potential within the Night Elf race outside of just Druid of Flame, druidism or Tyrande / Malfurion stuff — Along with helping new stories arise or at least flow more interestingly in the future. :grin:

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There’s nothing like a bit of someone’s personal headcanon to give me a fresh appreciation for Blizzard’s writing.

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I really think Blizzard has no idea. They want Jaina to be a noble woman of peace and a friend to people on both sides again. I could accept that easily, if they would only have her address what she did even once. Just one statement that she, at least now, feels it was wrong to purge Dalaran or try genocide against Orgrimmar.

Instead, you are left with the feeling that she is friends with people from the Horde, as long as you accept that she doesn’t really see anything wrong with killing them.

[Not down for some “Alliance did nothing wrong” troll. I’ll just block those posters.]

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I have Varodoc blocked so I missed this. But it is bit a funny. Given the reaction to the Ion’s comment that if you want to play High Elves, you can always just play Horde.

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Which is true if you stop to think about it. The only major difference between a Blood Elf and a High Elf is political. And with the new customizations, that comment is truer now than was before :dracthyr_heart:

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Yeah, that comment aged like fresh milk poured into an old gym shoe.

The Comment was both true and fine, its not Blizzard’s fault the Helfer community is sensitive and demanding as hell

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No, we can’t. Faction is assigned based on what race you want to play. Pandaren and Dracthyr are the only ones who actually get to pick a faction.

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I don’t know, every other blood elf NPC spawns in with high elf eyes nowadays; that comment has only gotten truer as far as cosmetics and roleplay are concerned. They’ve even started building Silver Covenant NPCs from the void elf model as of TWW, to really drive home that this “race” is already playable twice over.

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I don’t even hate Jaina. I loved her in Warcraft 3. It’s like my love for Sylvanas, I think. They were both great characters in the beginning, that lost a lot of consistency later on.

People have mentioned that Afrasiabi is probably responsible, and I think I can see that. Sometimes I wish they’d just retcon a couple of the expansions he was heavily involved in.

Also, this reminds me that I still think they epicly screwed up by not having Jaina hook up with Thrall. I think at some points during Warcraft they eventually intended on it. (Remember that Jaina and Thrall, sitting in a tree, K I S S I N G thing from Gnomeregan?)

Aggra always makes me cringe my face off anytime she’s on screen. And with Jaina, they were like, “Huh, well, let’s have her hook up with a blue dragon because why not?” Then, “Huh, let’s have that relationship that never really went anywhere break up, because why not?”

Like that little arm touch she did after they rescue Baine, I was like, “Is it gonna happe-- FFFFFFFFF, Aggra’s still a thing.”

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