no dk for you though?
And? The Low-Full scale is relative to current usage, not server capacity. Classic had queues on Medium realms for two weeks, which no Full retail realm has done in ages.
There’s been some dropoff as the tourists left, certainly. But as measures go, that one is almost completely worthless. All it tells you is that a ton of people rolled on Whitemane.
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“current usage”
so more people on on those servers playing right now? 0.o
the reason there’s no queues in retail is because of sharding. do you know how sharding works or do i need to explain it to you? no shade, it just seems like people who came back for classic don’t understand how it works.
It sounds like you’re the one who needs the explanation. Sharding isn’t there to split up the load of individual realms. That hasn’t been needed for years. It’s there to combine zones across dead servers to make them seem less dead.
You know what is designed to containerize and reduce the load of individual realms? Layering. Which is on classic and not retail.
Yes, I am saying that a Full (hell, even most Medium) Classic server is likely to have more people on than a retail Full. Because that scale is relative to current usage as compared between that set of realms.
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copied from a post i found explaining it better than i could:
"It’s a load balancing technology. Realms as separate worlds are effectively dead.
It has two functions: split players if there’s too many. This particularity happens at the start of an expansion. If you have a large server like Draenor that has thousands you can’t have them all in the same zone. Sharding creates multiple copies of the zone to split the load.
You also have the opposite . Most people are at max level so the low level zones are practically empty. Sharding brings all players together. If say there’s 20 people in the whole region who want to level in The Barrens at a particular time you dont have 20 instances of them sharding would bring them all together.
There’s also four types of sharding pools that you can belong too.
There’s now only PvE servers and PvE-RP servers. RP sharding is separate due to the separate RP rules. If you see posts of people complaining that the game is dead they are most likely on RP servers as they only have a few small realms and one big one to share players where as normal realms have tens of realms.
There’s also a war mode for both types where you can PvP, essentially opt-in PvP servers. RP Warmode is an even smaller amount of players.
There’s no way to manually enter shards it’s all automatic but you can join other’s if you group with them, providing they do not have war mode on.
It’s very similar to mega servers that other MMOs have except there’s still some stuff tied to realms."
i am on the rp server shard and i see plenty of people every single days. tons are in boralus on MG for example. i’ve also not waited for than 2m for a full raid group to do things like a WB group to full or a heroic warfront group to from from inviting people who join in lfg. retail is far from dead.
Yeah. But the load balancing aspect isn’t actually needed much outside of the first boom at the start of an xpac. Hell, even then, populations have been a fraction of what they were at Wrath peak.
When you see people from Proudmoore or Hyjal or such, it means that zone likely isn’t at capacity on their own realm either.
and you know blizz said they’re removing layering during phase 2. so it won’t be needed that way either. so?
Yeah. We all anticipated a dropoff.
The first question is whether it’ll be feasible. Layering was supposed to be starter zone only, and universalized because the demand was just that high. If STV is enough of a warzone, Blizz is gonna fight to walk back layer removal because the alternative is horrendous zone lag.
The second question is, again, a matter of scale. I see more in Wetlands than I did two weeks into Nazjatar.
just for illidan. one full realm.
https://realmpop.com/us-illidan.html
do you think herod has a million people on it really?
That’s characters, not active users. Sliding it to 111-120 drops it to less than 200k (EDIT: sorry, had it set wrong for first number), and even that’s going to have a significant number of alts.
yeah and when the initial rush of classic came out people were bragging about 2m characters made. so again?
And that’s not a reliable estimate either – a good chunk of that’s probably name reservations that were never touched again.
For now we have to go by stuff like spy addons, since Classic has substantially fewer APIs.
It’s ok. Nothing to write home about.
compare that number to 23 or whatever it was full servers for retail up right now.
Again…Low though Full is purely relative and has nothing to do with actual server capacity, and is thus completely useless as a measuring stick. The highest-pop realms are automaticaly marked Full and used as a measuring stick for everything else.
Classic had queues on realms that were not marked Full.
When you say retail has 23 Full realms, it means there are 23 realms with a current set of people ingame comparable to what, say, Hyjal has at this moment. That’s all.
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i have been on high populated realms and never got hit with a queue. for instance i make and remake toons on BB which is high and i’ve never once had a queue.
edit: give me a sec and i’ll try to log into it. and repost.
I dont like it. Worst expansion for pvp and rep gating ARs suck booty.
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My bank alt is on a Full realm – that’s why I made her there, so I’d have an economy to play with that wasn’t dead – and I’ve never been hit with a queue either.
Full means it’s the highest currently running. That’s it.
if you know that full realms don’t even have queues why are you arguing that non-full realms have queues?
edit: i just checked and the 3 full realms that are up now have a queue but the high realms don’t.