I like Covenants having unique combat abilities

This is an MMORPG, where choice should matter, where your character should be different based on your choices, not where every character has access to every ability and utility whenever they want. If you want a game where there is no meaningful, lasting, choice go play an FPS or a MOBA.

I hate the e-sports mentality, I hate giving priority to balance over RPG elements. People that call for this type of game have been ruining WoW for many years now. I hope Blizzard sticks to their guns and keeps the abilities separate for each covenant, as they look absolutely awesome…

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Choice is good. It makes us different.

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I like it too.

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Stick to it Blizzard!

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oh no, are the people who don’t even play the game gonna shoe horn us into a garbage system again?

can’t wait for expansion number 4 to be ruined by em

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Choices do matter in ways that are healthy for the game like in class and spec choices. Because for every advantage a class has it also has disadvantages. This is the counter.

Systems like covenant abilities have no counters. It’s just a random gift that is either going to be really good or really bad because that’s how all newly introduced things work.

It’s a guarantee Shadowlands launches and for months people are griping about covenant abilities in instanced content. Because highly competitive content has no room for outliers. If this team cannot balance classes that have existed for 15 years they aren’t going to balance an array of abilities introduced inside of six months.

Better to avoid all that headache business now by making them irrelevant to competitive content.

I play the game plenty. I’d actually argue that as the game caters more to people like you, subscriber numbers have been going down…

Cry some more and Blizz will do what they did before, cave and give you close to what you wanted.

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hmm… no you don’t.

again, stop trying to force a poor system on people. we all know it’s just going to cause frustration from the start and ultimately be fixed later in a patch.

might as well fix it early and save the headaches.

yep that’s the goal! worked with pvp vendors, essences, azerite, etc etc

if blizz is gonna truly turn over a new leaf and listen to obvious feedback, they’re not gonna push covenants how they are.

either they’ll miraculously find a way to balance em (they won’t) or they’ll make them swappable last moments into beta.

or we’re doing legion launch 3.0 with a flawed system that had a lot of criticism over

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Balancing is never the issue, people want to neuter it or have the ability to freely swap on the go. So let’s be real, we all know where Blizz will head since no change apart from what I listed will ever work for you and other folks that dislike it how it is now.

why would people want to freely swap on the go if it isn’t a balancing issue?

pay attention. this is a massive balancing issue.

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The problem with making it a pain to switch is that you can make your choice based only for Blizz to come along a few weeks later and change it so it doesn’t work for the specific reason you chose it (whatever that may be). The choice isn’t really “what option do I want” but rather “what’s do I think is going to survive the inevitable changes the best”? That’s more like gambling than an RPG.

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Or maybe they see Classic doing well as a sign people might actually like having a meaningful choice, where you can’t just respec everything anytime you want for free.

You people would have a heart attack playing DnD when the DM tells you “no you can’t have all of that.” Bring some character building and rpg elements back to this genre.

classic has like… non existence competitive end game lol…

a meaningful choice shouldn’t be compelling players to consider leveling 4 of the same class hahahaha

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Simple. Balance is getting it within a reasonable percentage differential. They will never get it perfect… hence they’d need to do it so that the effect is of miniscule importance to the people doing the content that matters that they are so worried about.

So read again and try to comprehend it.

Go ask around and the first thing is a complaint that is shared by a handful of being ‘‘locked down’’. THUS BEING ABLE TO SWAP.

Now second,… the other complaint of purely removing power from covenants and making it a cosmetic choice. Hence the ‘‘neutering’’ part I wrote.

Clear enough I hope for you.

don’t gotta neuter anything bout it

just let us swap between them all. simple.

the entire system could eaisly be about working with each covenant and gaining favour similar to rep to empower each aspect it has. one might be stronger in one aspect of the game, but everyone should be able to get there whether they prioritize M+ first vs PVP or etc.

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And it’s why there are some people who disagree with it. I literally pointed it out and you repeated what I wrote :rofl:

Balance has no place that’ll ever make you guys happy. So giving an ability to swap is your easy out. But that destroys a lot of what makes the choice fun and meaningful FOR ME.

You think the opposite, hence why we have people for A and others for B. But people like you come in to talk :poop: about the other side. :clap:

So when soulbinds are released you gonna petition to have them all copies of one another? We know they are gonna have different effects and numbers of slots.

Using your logic we should make every class the same. If dps under performs Blizzard is forcing people to reroll to the fotm class. Better just remove that.

balance should take higher priority honestly. you’ll live.

you should see how many fire mages are taken to mythic nzoth and how many people rerolled fire mage for mythic nzoth lol

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then there’s the guilds that borrowed fire mages for mythic nzoth

Exactly. Which is why I choose to play a class for its abilities, and dislike continually jumping through arbitrary hoops to get garbage borrowed-power gimmicks that are all min-maxed by Blizzard’s inability to create interesting stat and encounter choices.

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