Hi all! I’ve been playing on BB for the last week and with the forum launch I thought I’d check out the unofficial discord server, particularly guild recruitment.
While browsing the alliance side RP guild recruitment thread, I noticed an antisemitic dog whistle in a guild’s recruitment post. I posted in the mod help channel asking the mods to look into it; not only is bigotry wrong it is also clearly outlined as against the rules of this server. One of the server admins responded and said it was a misunderstanding. I asked how someone could accidentally use an antisemitic dog whistle and asked if the post had been edited to remove it. The admin told me it had been changed, but when I checked the original post the dog-whistle was still there.
The admin told me to be patient while it’s being “dealt with.” That is insane because it’s not hard at all to edit/delete a discord post and both the admin and the game master who posted it were online (with the admin claiming to have spoken with the game master). I informed the admin that if the post wasn’t changed in the hour (by 5 pm eastern time) I’d make a post here about how they refused to enforce their rules to ban bigotry and in fact were actively defending the bigot.
It was at this time that I was banned from the BB discord server.
I have screen shots to document all of this (that have time stamps that prove the bigoted post was still up both when the admin had told me it had been changed/removed and when I was banned) and if anyone PMs me I am more than happy to supply them. I have the username of the admin and the name of the guild in question, but I don’t want to run afoul of doxxing rules because I am unsure how they are enforced on the WoW forums.
Using a work around to view the server it appears as though the guild recruitment post in question has been deleted, but the guild master who posted it is still listed as a member of the server.
While the post in question has been deleted this whole thing has been mismanaged. It screams to me that the admin is trying to sweep this under the rug. They failed to catch a bigoted dog whistle, then claimed the problem had been fixed when it was still up, then they banned the person who called attention to it.
This is just a general warning to anyone who wants to explore the BB community on discord: an admin will ban you if you point out hateful bigotry.
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To be clear, given I don’t know what the actual phrase is, a “dog whistle” is literally using a phrase that could be innocuous but which people ‘in the know’ recognize as another statement.
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Honestly it sounds like you’re one of those people that sees patterns where there are none.
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It was the triple parentheses, or “echo,” in which three parentheses are placed on each side of a word or phrase to indicate Jewish influence. It’s a dog whistle in that it’s meaning can be hidden, but it’s pretty difficult to use accidentally, especially when it was used in the guilds section about how people shouldn’t be offended by extreme materiel.
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Lolwut? In some markup codes that means preformatted text, and in general posts it’s usually some sort of header. I really think you might have jumped the gun a bit.
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Google it. It’s a well known hateful dog whistle, with the Anti-Defamation League classifying it as hate speech. They don’t mess around.
I’m not saying that it is or isn’t the case.
I’m saying that your ban is probably warranted for your behavior against someone who probably had no clue what it was all about, and was trying to placate you while they worked it out.
Either way, Blizzard has no control or involvement over the Discords for servers, and any attempt to blacklist or poison them here will be dealt with as harassment.
ILY.
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Well, it seems to me the admins just don’t care if they didn’t wanna deal with it which sucks but what can you do. At the same time you did basically threaten that you were going to make a post “exposing” them. I guess they just wanted you to stop trying to cause drama. Maybe you could have handled it more calmly rather than being like “Ima tell the forums! Ha!”
You were banned because you tried to blackmail us.
We asked him to change the post and you freaked out when it was not changed that very moment. You then said “if its not changed within the next hour i will post on the forums about how you defended a racist and a biggot!”
We told them to change it, and are working with them to make their messege better.
You were banned cause you tried to blackmail mods.
Also “ADL classified it as hate speech, they don’t mess around” they labeled pepe as a hate symbol… come on, you are seriously taking them seriously?
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We did deal with them, their posts have since been deleted and are being re-written, moderated by us. The issue was not “we dont wanna deal with it” the issue was “DEAL WITH IT RIGHT THIS VERY INSTANT OR IM GUNNA POST THIS!”
We have evidance for those who wish to see it
Feel free to contact me on discord Felplague#7189 for screenshots of how the OP blackmailed us and was acting insane, aswell as us speaking with the person who made the guild recruitment message.
BTW Taniste below, i am an admin. we said it would be changed. the guy had 2 messeges and changed 1, we then asked him to change the other, but then later just deleted both and asked him to re-write them.
You have to understand and grow up, learn to be an adult, not everyone is at their PC 24/7 and we gave him a fair while to change them as not everyone is able to sit down and re-write a post there and then.
The issue was not you calling out the post, we were dealing with it, the issue was your threatening and blackmailing while we were investigating and dealing with the situation.
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The admin told me it had been changed when it was still up. That admin lied to me. If they had said “we’re speaking with them about changing it” that wouldn’t have been a lie and I wouldn’t have done what I did.
Forum Moderator Note: This topic has been closed as it’s going nowhere good fast.