i was all aboard the sod hype train when it came out. it was a “fresh” classic that was teased to be a + but turned into retail minus.
notice how with very little changes phase 1 was overpopulated with how many people were around doing all manner of things from leveling their 20th alt to max to pvping to running stuff that was over leveled and all sorts of random other things.
the changes were little and it still had the skeleton of classic that it was building off of .
the farther it goes though it no longer resembles classic at all.
it is a poor retail - .
things that would normally been scoffed at and roundly rebuked are touted as great ideas without any thought of what we lose and have lost over the course of putting them in.
nobody is even in any way moored to the tenents of what makes LOADS AND LOADS of people come back every time there is a wiff of something fresh classic vanilla.
people are not realizing any of this. they are not aware of all that we have lost with each new “brilliant” change.
i give up.
i will just raid with my guild if they even will still raid if p4 is bearable for them and then just hope for a real classic + or a fresh era server.
i have lost all hope they can even save this game anymore.
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Aggrend’s design philosophy is bad and he has too much of an ego to admit it.
Nobody wants soda and pretzels. I think it’s very telling that the highest amount of PR and attention SoD got was when ST released difficult. And then they lobotomized it and the game literally cratered.
I’m willing to give him some breathing room with class design since he’s just 1 man and has like…no team apparently aside from like 3 other people. But then at least listen to educated feedback.
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yeah retail class design is actually good
the downside is retail is a que from the capital city lobby game with too much QoL for convenience sake
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I got really into WoW in 2004, at the start, because of the community aspects. I kept playing through each expansion but the magic just went away slowly over time. The game became one where there was a focus on the self, and away from the community.
People say “Well, that happened because of social media” or whatever else (I’d been online chatting with people around the world, even playing games etc, for years already at this point).
Well, I gave up on WoW but saw an ad for Classic 2019 and was surprised to find that game was 90% of what I wanted out of WoW the whole time (I’d given up enough to not do pservers).
Then Blizzard started changing things in TBCC and the game started, again, turning into the one I tried for so long to hang onto but quit because the social aspects and “magic” were both gone. Wrath was even more changes so I quit there. Cata is packed full of changes. SoM didn’t have a ton of changes, but almost all of the changes Blizzard did make made the game worse.
I don’t trust this dev team anymore, so now my stance is more #nochanges. They don’t seem to understand the essence of what made WoW good at the start. WoW before wasn’t a complete and total focus of every player on themselves, and for those who did want that they’ve got Retail to play. Still. Where they can spend 90 hours a week grinding out cosmetics and never, ever, talking to another person.
I saw your posts about the world bosses and agree.
It sucks that things went this way from P1 where people like you were having fun.
I’ll be here if they do another fresh, even a few years down the road.
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I got really into WoW in 2004, at the start, because of the community aspects. I kept playing through each expansion but the magic just went away slowly over time. The game became one where there was a focus on the self, and away from the community.
People say “Well, that happened because of social media” or whatever else (I’d been online chatting with people around the world, even playing games etc, for years already at this point).
Well, I gave up on WoW but saw an ad for Classic 2019 and was surprised to find that game was 90% of what I wanted out of WoW the whole time (I’d given up enough to not do pservers).
Then Blizzard started changing things in TBCC and the game started, again, turning into the one I tried for so long to hang onto but quit because the social aspects and “magic” were both gone. Wrath was even more changes so I quit there. Cata is packed full of changes. SoM didn’t have a ton of changes, but almost all of the changes Blizzard did make made the game worse.
I don’t trust this dev team anymore, so now my stance is more #nochanges. They don’t seem to understand the essence of what made WoW good at the start. WoW before wasn’t a complete and total focus of every player on themselves, and for those who did want that they’ve got Retail to play. Still. Where they can spend 90 hours a week grinding out cosmetics and never, ever, talking to another person.
I saw your posts about the world bosses and agree.
It sucks that things went this way from P1 where people like you were having fun.
I’ll be here if they do another fresh, even a few years down the road.
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New blizzard is a sociopolitical company, not a game company. They haven’t put anything good out since overwatch and legion. Those happened because the last of the old guard were still working and had a say.
Mbas have cleaned out blizz, done a mountain of dei hiring and restructured the company in the wake of the Cosby suite. Dei hiring isn’t even necessarily bad but it was done here exactly like the rest of the video game industries. Not to reach out to exlcuded devs but to just hire the first face that checks the maxium Blackrock bucks regardless of their passions.
There’s almost no one left at blizzard who simply wants to make a good game. It has to pass social metrics for blackrock bucks and it has to be focused on nickel and dime revenue that bleeds their playerbase for maximum profits.
What exactly do you think is wrong?
I’ve never had someone copy pasta one of my long-winded posts but you do you. I’m an old school poster who still uses on a computer and doesn’t tend to do the one liner thing. I see that you are not only a one liner poster, but you don’t even know how to capitalize things. Ouch.
Anyway, there were probably better posts to do that with.
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it’s because they are not staying true to the classic version and keep making changes.
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