Its extremely short but the voice acting was good and it sets up for something cool.
I would rate it a 7/10 comic vs bfas 3/10 novel.
Shadowlands hopefully has a great story and introduces some great new characters
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Shadowlands need to go all Game of Thrones on a lot of old characters.
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You should see my toaster smoke in Blackreach. It’s so pretty for the 10 minutes I get to play.
WoW doesn’t place as much priority or emphasis on story as Elder Scrolls (single player or mmo) so it’ll never be as good in that department.
I think the consensus for people who have played both for a reasonable length of time would be that ESO seems to design the game more around the storyline while WoW shoehorns the lore into the systems they create in every new xpac.
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its such a beautiful game! Whats weak on your pc? are you gonna upgrade?
So it needs to ruin their character development, reduce their dialogue to the comparable abilities of a 5th grader, and remove them from the story in such a way that keeps fans angry for years after the fact?
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Onslaught from SWTOR was also very nice but their always known for story and voice acting.
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Game of Thrones didn’t really do that. D&D did fine when using source material. It turned into a crapshoot when they ran out and realized they couldn’t write without it. Also why they just finished several seasons worth of material in 1 6 episode season.
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Game of thrones worst season destroys WoWs writing as of late. The story is unbelievably bad on all levels. They dont know how to make new characters and the same old ones are boring.
Illidan, the corny Edgelord, was a gigantic breath of fresh air. In any other game he would of been the annoying sidekick
Subjective, but I have to fiercely disagree with this hyperbole. Season 8’s writing was so bad it destroyed an entire franchise. BFA’s storyline was a cluttered mess, but it had glimpses of competence and didn’t outright destroy the canon, which is more than could ever be said for GoT. Jaina and Saurfang had actual character arcs, and both of them were really well done. Nobody looks back on what happened to Jaina or Saurfang and thinks “gosh, I really wish they got the Jaime Lannister treatment.”
Taelia Fordragon.
Flynn Fairwind.
Rastakhan.
Bwonsamdi.
Zekhan.
All of them are fan favorites, and all of them have virtually the entirety of their characters fleshed out in BFA.
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I think when talking about the series we should defer to ASOIAF the books anyways. GOT was cute I liked the beat but the books are the main content and far superior, hating on the show is like beating a dead horse imo.
ill give you season 8, except that people complained about dani going bad which was obvious since season 2.
Ill also give you Bwonsamdi, but will NOT give you Zekhan. hes a fan character gone wild
How is Greymane still alive
But it’s so fun though!
In all seriousness, I think there’s still a lot of value to be had in examining the objective failures of Season 8’s writing. GoT was among the greatest phenomenons on television of all time and all the goodwill it had generated evaporated into a cloud of dust after Season 8. GoT as a brand has been irreparably damaged by its ending, and there’s a lot of educational merit to be had in using season 8 as a case study of how not to end a tv show.
No, dude, no…
If this was the show’s true intended end point for Dany, it did a terrible job bringing her from point A to point B. Dany’s violence was only ever reserved for enemies who did terrible things, and even then she was not above showing mercy. Arya cooked an entire house into a pie and she turned out alright, and characters like Tyrion used fire as a battle strategy in past seasons and they don’t get chastised by the whip of morality. Dany choosing to genocide an entire population of innocent civilians after the battle is already won is a remarkable leap of a plot contrivance and one that even the writers themselves can’t adequately justify to this very day.
Oh, and then the fact that she starts wearing fascist clothing and giving supreme emperor speeches after the fact even though she’s never done anything of the sort despite wielding absolute power before was just laughable. That’s not how you craft a villain.
Zekhan’s character development, his youthful optimism, his grounding presence in the Horde, and his influence on Saurfang, are all independent of the “Zappiboi” meme. He played a pivotal role in the Old Soldier cinematic, and there wasn’t enough time for Blizzard to put him in just because he was a meme in the BFA cinematic trailer. His role in the story was planned from day 1; the meme just helps him out a bit.
See I’m the opposite xD I think its more beneficial to talk about the book series, it’d be like talking about Tolkeins work but only using the movies to go off of (yes they were popular too I think, idk the hobbit series I fell asleep in every one I’d wake up like an hour later and they were on the same fight scene I was like oh y’all still doing this little thing)
The shows were never going to capture the story well enough, they ruined Dorne long before the final seasons, there was no (f)Aegon, and I as a viewer knew that watching it so idk I guess I accepted the show for what it was a long time before others did?
Well, you have to understand; fans of ASOIAF don’t have an official conclusion to their story yet (if you ask me, it’s likely Martin will never give it to them). GoT season 8 is the closest thing they have right now, so it’s not hard for me to understand why fans would treat the show as if it were a canon installment (and thus react with the appropriate anger).
Tolkien’s written works are a strong enough mythology to stand on their own right. Even if you don’t like the Jackson interpretations, you still have the original books, the Bakshi films, and the upcoming Amazon tv series. Each is a different version of the same IP, but they’re largely their own things.
There’s also the sticky matter of Martin being closely involved with the production of GoT, and DnD claiming that they’ve been following a “roadmap” that Martin gave them once they ran out of book material to adapt. So we’re in a very rare opportunity where criticizing the adaptation could have tangible impacts on the canon source material, which, again, hasn’t even been concluded yet.
I don’t know I’ve seen most book series fans just disregard the show in favor of waiting for Martin, who has thrown some shade at the DnD adaption too. I get what you’re saying but I am hopeful for the end of ASOIAF, its just slow but I do feel it will be well worth it, (I’m a Lannister/Tyrell Stan myself but I do quite like (f)Aegon), I have my theories on how the show ending differs from the books and I do feel if peoples only real thing is being a Dany fan then they may still be disappointed but the books I think will differ by quite a bit.
not gonna disagree with you but how could ANYONE not see that dany was evil?? Shes the ONLY character in the show AND books that was SURROUNDED by peaceful advisors since she even started to come to power.
shes the ONLY character that wanted to kill people first by burning them as a resolution to things. she constantly has thoughts of killing people and is turned back.
shes open minded and willing to listen but she has to be told. shes the complete opposite of jon snow who doesnt need to be told anything, hes good all the time and people tell him hes too good.
they are opposite sides of the same coin from the very beginning. They made it blatantly obvious she was going to turn in the show (the books too, but there are some strange differences I wont get into now about her past and the tree) whenever she got into thought and wanted to burn people and they had to talk her off the ledge.
Theres a reason they always spoke about the madness of a targaryn and the the gods flipping a coin. shes one side, jon is the other. they said it MULTIPLE times over the years.
edit - btw I LOVE talking about this because its been so long.
My favorite book series is actually Shadows of the Apt by adrian tchaikovsky tbh.
I honestly have no idea why I stopped playing ESO. After playing BFA, I feel like ESO is calling my name again.
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im loving it. been going back and forth between ESO and FF14 and its heaven
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