How you consistently say these incorrect things with such confidence baffles me.
Like, you come up with what you think is true but it’s wrong, and you commit to it anyways.
Zephyr reduces an insane amount of damage, especially in m+.
AMZ hasn’t been “incredibly strong” since nathria.
Zephyr is great in M+ dungeons where having an extra defensive could save the entire run, but the 5-target limit makes it less-amazing in raids.
Yeah there are some things it literally makes so much more manageable (first volley on last brh boss, aoe on last everbloom boss, etc).
And yeah, not as powerful in raid but still similar amounts of DR if used at the correct times, just obviously less reliable who it goes on.
How would you know if it’s ‘meh’?
You have used zephyr ZERO times in mythic raid, and have been spec’d into Terror of the Skies the entire time 
Trying to stun those bosses I guess?
I don’t understand how you can keep making definitive claims like you understand this game, this spec, or balance in general when you don’t even understand how to choose the right talents for your spec.
Unless it’s you, because you choose the option that does quite literally nothing in raid instead of the option that can reduce millions of damage per fight.
How dare you post something so logical and not intentionally misleading.
Looks like we actually need more black and green spells, imo
But I didn’t actually say anything incorrect, did I? I stated an opinion that you happen to disagree with. How you keep on saying such incorrect things with such confidence continues to baffle me, but you always stick to it.
This is incorrect.
This is also apparently incorrect for you, because you spec TotS in raid instead of Zeph. So there is something else, but only players that have no idea how to spec would take it.
Also incorrect, AMZ is not incredibly strong anymore and has a dmg cap (also does nothing for phys dmg). so a well-used zephyr will still be able to outperform it. Darkness is also a much longer CD and requires people to be in melee range, which as we know from your incessant range complaints, you probably aren’t willing to do. Additionally, it’s far less powerful in raid, as it has a very good chance of doing absolutely nothing for you.
This is also incorrect, as your logs show you have chosen to die without even hitting your Renewing Blaze (edit: you aren’t even spec’d into renewing blaze EITHER, and have instead chosen to raid with cauterizing flame , unravel (which you can’t use on any of the fights you’ve done), and --wait for it-- FORGER OF THE MOUNTAINS is also talented in mythic raid 
), and you don’t even spec into Zephyr. SO if the choice is between using a defensive or dying, it looks like death is your go-to.
This is incorrect. Emerald Communion is not an immunity.
This is incorrect. It’s a standard talent in all evoker builds (except yours apparently).
Yes, you did.
HAHAHAHA this is beautfiul.
There’s a reason he doesn’t raid with us anymore.
What a big fat load of opinion. I prefer having an extra hover and a reliable stun over Zephyr. That’s not incorrect, it’s a choice. I feel that, according to my playstyle, those are better picks for than an occasional 20% AoE defensive. And therefore, for me, it’s meh. Especially since I PvP quite often. Which is why I feel it should be a baseline spell, not something you have to choose over a stun or extra hover. It’s weak as a spell and as a final talent choice.
An AoE defensive as a final talent choice, good grief.
yes, I occasionally die fighting mythic raid bosses (that I have ultimately defeated multiple times). If you’re trying to shame or discredit me for this, you’re going to have to try a lot harder.
Mybad, I don’t use that spell since it’s healer only (but I sure wish it wasn’t).
Anything else?
Dying is cool.
Dying with a troll talent build that chooses almost zero defensives and pointless talents is not.
You don’t have to make this choice, lol.
Literally zero reason or value to take a stun in raid.
It sure is.
As opposed to the talents you’re taking, which do NOTHING. You took CDR on landslide, an AOE stun that does nothing in raid, and a shield damaging ability on bosses where nothing has a shield.
Pretty sure ONE talent point for zephyr is more worth than this. Renewing blaze definitely is, I have no idea why you wouldn’t take it.
You’re entitled to your opinion.
Renewing Blaze is a non-negotiable mandatory Talent for all group content at Max level. The amount of healing it does when used properly is insane and it will save your life and your Healers nerves.
But how will he raid mythic without being able to stun bosses, root them more frequently, and damage their shields?
There is no space for renewing blaze OR zephyr in this king’s paradigm-shattering build.
I’m glad you’re all so impressed for me, but I don’t see why you care.
Oh right, forums are for trolling and demeaning, not intelligent conversation. How could I have forgotten. Why stay on topic if you find a mob to join?
Spoiler alert: it’s because you don’t have anything to add to the conversation.
Extra spoiler: I’ll waste no time trying to justify my actions to random internet trolls.
How about we just scrap the irrelevant comments and start over.
People care because you are all over this forum spreading misinformation and uninformed takes.
This is a place (some) people come to learn the best ways to play a class. You’re here making claims about what’s good and bad, what works and doesn’t. Yet you haven’t the slightest idea of how to copy a good talent setup.
It’s incredible how much you oppose learning and getting better. Why don’t you want to get better?
It’s so weird that you’re here speaking up for how good having emerald communion would be when you’re not even specced into our defensive options now.
You actually had to go out of your way for a talent setup this janky. You can copy a good one pretty easily.
I am not here to say bad things about you or go over your logs if you don’t want me to, I’m just explaining things as they are from a position of relative experience.
My goal is to help players become better, I want there to be more Devastation Evokers doing better than me. There is always some room for build flexibility to make things better for the team to improve chances of success but the first step is to take criticisms (even if delivered in a trolling manner) at face value. Learn, improve, become better and push farther, will perform better and enjoy things better being near the top of the charts, not dying, and pulling cool maneuvers that might save the day in keys or raid.
All other things aside, it comes down to all this.
For you to be in every thread making definitive statements about what’s good/working and what’s not is detrimental to the evoker community.
At the end of the day we should all be here to help people learn evoker and get better, and when you steadfastly refuse to want to learn or get better and stubbornly stick to your guns when you’re wrong, it’s not productive and it could mislead newer players.
Renewing blaze and zephyr are table-stakes for every build. They’re powerful defensives.
No that’s mobs need to be stunned, nor so they need a lower cd landslide. It almost seems like you raid with the same build you m+ with (which should still have blaze and zephyr).
To refuse these truths is ignorance, and to not understand how those builds are suboptimal (especially since you’re using them in mythic raid) while arguing with everyone in these forums that doesn’t agree with your opinion (when it is many times objectively wrong) is counter-productive.
I do use multiple builds, including Renewing for raid. You’re probably looking at my PvP build, but go on with your assumptions.
Ironic. I never once said anything about what should or should not be used, just that I prefer other talents to Zephyr and wish it was a base ability, so we didn’t have to choose it at all. It’s all right there! Try reading before commenting.
You have zero casts of zephyr and renewing blaze in all your attempts in mythic raid.
I’m referring to statements about range, talents, etc. It was a post encompassing everything you post all over the forums.
You have many incorrect statements on here about what’s not working, what’s failed, and they’re objectively wrong based on how we’re doing/have been doing all xpac.
It has to be exhausting to be this learning-averse.
The thing is, every build uses renewing blaze. Even PVP because even though it becomes weaker with dampening, it is still greater than having nothing at all and risk dying early while the healer is in a cyclone.