I’d still pass. I’m sick to death of fighting my own leaders and former leaders at this point. It’s not. fun.
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Arthas was so good cause he is the iconic heroes fall story, started off with noble intentions till he was corrupted into the monster he became.
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I loathe Baine as a character, but I don’t want him gone. While I would be happy if he were replaced, I would still accept him being present if he, say, had a foil. Someone of authority who would take aggressive action and isn’t soon to be replaced because he disagrees with him. Someone who won’t bend the knee in the face of a conflict that will undoubtedly come again at some point in the future (with the Alliance or an outside entity).
The Tauren story desperately needs more than just Baine and more individuals who aren’t of the same demeanor as Baine, because Mayla Highmountain is just an accessory to him. She doesn’t bring anything to the table as a character.
Ruk Warstomper might be a good candidate as the aforementioned foil.
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So just got back from the mandalorian finale (holy hell that made me stiff that was goood)
Is it weird I feel like I wish Disney bought activision blizzard and could just cleanse them up or something?
That was the bad thing when the Grimtotem and then Bloodtotem got the axe from the tauren society. They were good foils to the Cairne, Baine, and Mayla. They were written as too power hungry, really just remove the power hunger and things may have been interesting. It’s just a problem with Taurens since Vanilla, no attention, no development, defanged, too passive and pure. Use them only for the “kick the puppy” trope.
The only remedy is to have the Horde get their teeth kicked in by the Alliance. Not exactly something i’ve seen Horde players want to happen. What exactly is the solution then, if attacking cities like Silvermoon is “OFF LIMITS”?
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If the horde’s horrible storyline continues, I will spend 2m in token’s and switch all of my hordies to alliance.
Yes.
Mandalorian is the exception, not the rule for how Disney handles franchises.
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looks at clone wars and marvel riiiight.
Buddy, don’t reward them for their abuse of the Horde playerbase.
I know it seems like a lot of work, but if you’re set on not playing the Horde when Blizzard’s treating the Horde poorly, just make an Alliance alt version of your Horde character.
I’ve got one Horde/Alliance warrior and death knight on my realm just so that I can play the Horde when I want to and escape when I need to.
It works, I promise.
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Because it’s already happened. Between the villain bat, the loss of characters, the loss of faction fantasy, the loss of racial themes … we have no teeth left.
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Look directors went on record and stated they weren’t forced to work together. It was mostly the Russo brothers asking what the other directors and writers were doing and working around it.
And Clone Wars is fine, sure, but the movies show where Disney’s head is presently.
It’s not better on this side, I promise. Unless you enjoy being in a faction which is portrayed as incompetent, weak, and naive.
But not by the Alliance, which is the core problem. It’s portrayed as if the Horde is ridding itself of the parts that cause itself problems, instead of the Alliance removing the parts that is causing problem for the Alliance.
Dude. The Alliance invaded Orgrimmar and killed a bunch of Horde heroes. Garrosh was literally a raid boss for the Alliance to shake down for purples. Sylvanas is likely to be next.
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And how was it portrayed? Was it portrayed in such a way that the Alliance were doing it to avenge what they had lost? Or was it instead portrayed in such a way that the Alliance was helping the Horde by doing it? Helping the “good Horde” beat back the “evil Horde”, after which we just leave without demanding a single thing.
I get that from a meta perspective the Alliance were the victors in that raid. But not from a story perspective, which is the problem.
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He’s not going to argue honestly with you. You’re wasting your time, homie.
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It’s fine if you don’t understand how it’s like on this side. But I did expect better from Zuleika.
Yes. You were supposed to separate Vol’jin’s rebels, your allies (at least temporarily), from Garrosh and his loyalists, your enemies. You were supposed to feel that you had punished and eliminated the ones who were responsible for the wrongs you suffered–“removing the parts of [the Horde] that is causing a problem for the Alliance,” in fact, which is exactly what you asked for. You were not supposed to continue to hold your grudges from the Garrosh era against the new regime that you helped to install in Orgrimmar and wagged a finger at and and told to be good, now.
I get that it didn’t work, at least for you, but that was how the game designers wanted you to view it.
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Did the Horde not get beat down in UC?
Did the Horde not canonically lose Darkshore and Arathi?
Did the Horde not have to siege Org to depose a randomly villain-batted leader again?
Saying they never get kicked in the teeth is dumb. BFA was nothing but the Horde being kicked in the teeth. When’s the last time a raid involved sieging an Alliance city?
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Problem is they sort of forgot about the rest of the Horde, such as the Forsaken. Do you know what we call throwing all the blame on a single group within a greater whole when everyone is guilty? A scapegoat. Garrosh was not alone. Not by a long shot. But everyone else get’s a pass because they started to fight aginst him at the last second.
Oh well. No way they would be stupid enough to do this plotline again. Right?
I would have preffered if we simply didn’t have a raid, and just allowed the Alliance to kill the commaders responsible, like Hawthorne for Taurajo, in questing. Would have been a lot more satisfying, and I would not have had to help the enemy faction sort out it’s problems. Twice.
Yes and no. The Horde did lose Undercity. But just to spite Alliance players, Sylvanas had to blow it up herself, while taking a large chunk of our army with it.
It didn’t feel like a victory.
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