I simply state that there is a difference between being discretionary and being elitist. Briging someone you think will help you succeed is different than thinking you’re doing someone a favor by bringing them because you’re the Light’s gift to M+
Now, I also don’t think folks running 25’s are being elitist because they want to run with other folks timing mid-20’s, it just means they’re managing their expectations and being exacting on who they bring.
Dont be. You’re good enough. Just get with a good group of people (friends if you can) and have them help you.) Run 20s. Get good gear and you can.
Good for you! I don’t think that doing the difficult content makes you an elitist by default. As long as you are kind to others and don’t dismiss them for not having done the same content as you, I don’t believe that you are an elitist. <3
You aren’t elitist. You are simply expecting a level of play reasonable for the content you are doing, +20 deaths is not normal.
To which I would ask: What exactly is the difference?
You can argue that elitism starts and discretion ends when the requirements start being unreasonable, but while it’s easy to point to people asking for 2k IO, 475+ilvl for a +5, is that requirement unreasonable for 20s? 17s? 15s? Is asking for AotC for a Heroic run elitism or discretionary?
Obviously that’s all subjective. I would argue that there’s just different levels of elitism, and that’s not a bad thing. People just focus on all the ridiculously unreasonable people, simply because they stick out the most.
Yep. I think it’s best summed up like this.
A player is doing a little rough, they haven’t played in a while and they’re very clearly rusty - their DPS isn’t quite up to scratch, they’re dying to a few mechanics, nothing run-ending, but it is slowing the group down a tad.
An elitist would call them out on all of this, perhaps ask what the [expletive] is wrong with them, genuinely make a big scene out of their perceived failure. Make them feel like a lesser person because they messed up in a videogame.
So I think the definition of an elitist, therefore, is someone who takes ingame issues and tries to make them personal. Whether by insulting players like in my example, or in it painting their worldview outright to percieve less skilled/progressed players as lesser people.
Before you get too uppity, just remember you’re Alliance. That will take you down a few notches.
I’m better than most of the people playing this game. This means nothing to me because I’ve never really attached any value to being good or bad at the game.
An elitist would look down with contempt on anyone they perceive as inferior to them and build a lot of their mentality around performance in this game whereas I am simply content to be good enough to do whatever I want and never apply myself to do more. I also, not being an idiot, don’t expect other players to apply themselves to be more than they are either.