Sounds good! Next time I log in, I’ll see. Be well!
yeah but people can have lower raider io but still be good
I agree, I myself still don’t use raider io, but I’ve seen most of the advertisments for high keys requiring a raider io check.
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Of course they can. There is nothing that can easily measure skill, but tools that measure experience are the next best thing.
Which is why OP came to the conclusion that they did. Dungeon runs are far easier when you recruit based on experience, getting people you know can handle the content, as opposed to blindly picking the first few applicants who join the group.
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That doesn’t sound like you’re being elitist - it sounds like you’re finally getting some standards for your time and not wanting people to waste it.
Elitism is about constantly talking down to people that do not do the content you do, at the level you do and with the skill you have (which is always better than everyone else) while also wanting to get rid of of all players that do not no-life the game like you do.
You don’t seem to fall into that category.
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Knowing what you doing and how to be effective in group while choosing to group with people with experience is not elitist.
Being a prick to people that are where you used to be in the progression, that is elitist.
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You’re too slow at becoming elitist, what do you even expect with that speed.
I think I may be using the wrong word, elitist was the word that popped in my head when I thought about being picky about who I wanted to invite to harder content. But as others have said that is probably not the right word, though I don’t know a good word to describe how I feel.
But never a Mythic. And you are doing low keys.
harder content than what I usually do which is just world quests 
I’m afraid to do mythic raids. and I’m working my way up the keys
Choosing to group with people with experience is the basic definition of elitist.
If I said I wouldn’t play with you because you don’t meet my standards, no-one would hesitate to label me an elitist.
But cause OP said it in a nice way, everyone’s doing mental gymnastics to justify how elitism is totally something different.
Honestly you can’t say you’ve done a high key until you’ve been timing +20s
OP, elitism is when you think that being a better player automatically means you’re a better person than less-skilled players. Trying your best and wanting others to do their best so you can reap the benefits of your practice isn’t a bad thing - it’s something we should all be striving for in our pursuits, but we should be mindful that this is just a game. Being a great player does not make you a great person.
It’s extremely forgiving…at first. The deal with M+ is you have to know the mobs, the mechanics, and the dungeon, and the higher you go, the more important that knowledge becomes. Stuff you thought you could ignore in a +2 becomes deadly serious in a +12.
So when you hit a wall, the system doesn’t let you progress because it would be even less fun than the run you just did. That’s fairly forgiving.
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Look up the word.
Things like RaiderIO are great because they reduce your odds of playing with idiots, unless you’re an idiot yourself. It effectively ends up putting people together of relatively similar ability.
Which is a LOT less frustrating than playing with people worse than you.
I see your point. I would consider their actions more about discretion, and being judicious. Elitism, to me, is not merely choosing to pick the best to play with you, but to both flaunt that and carry an air that others can’t attain your special status/skill/level/etc.
Just my hot take
it’s ok bro, nobody has to know
just parse on the dummies nobody ever uses at 4am
elitism
noun
- the belief that a society or system should be led by an elite.
“local government in the nineteenth century was the very essence of elitism”
the dominance of a society or system by an elite.
the superior attitude or behaviour associated with an elite.
Second definition fits perfectly in the context of M+.
Discriminating based on experience (and thus it’s perceived impact on skill) in M+ is pretty much the definition of elitism.
It’s definitely one part of it.
But if I hold those beliefs in that you’re not good enough to join my group based on experience, class or spec, what does it matter if I tell you about it? Are my motivations any less elitist simply because I choose to silently decline you?
I find the best way to get this, right now, is to advertise your group as being for a “Practice Run” - with the proviso that you might time it, but that’s not the point.
You still get the occasional person who’ll complain when that timer goes poof, but I find they attract much, much more chill people than your usual PUG, to the point where I might start advertising all my groups as that, even if they’re not…
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That’s not entirely true and that’s why carries exist.