I enjoy having a true BIS that is farmable through raiding.
I enjoy being able to collect a tier set that is absolutely the best for my spec.
I enjoy finishing all of the quests in a zone/patch and being done with it so I can just do dailies when I want.
I enjoy getting to a level each raid tier where I no longer need anything at all and I’ve “WON THE GAME!”.
I DO NOT ENJOY:
Endless grinds for arbitrary power systems that handicap me for not wanting to play the game 24/7.
Farming various currencies endlessly for extra gear slots in the form of essences, azerite traits, corruptions, sockets. Also, many of the essences are MANDATORY or you will be totally useless!
Being forced to literally have a full 32 slot bag dedicated to a boat load of gear because the game REQUIRES me to have drastically different gear for Raids, Dungeons, and PvP, as well as different specs. AKA Azerite gear… -.-
Having complete RNG over whether or not you can actually get your BIS piece, OR farming endlessly with the hopes RNG will let you get Azerite gear over a very long time and many runs just to spend exorbitant amounts of currency on a target piece.
Why do I hate BFA? Because it makes no damn sense.
Chewbacca is a Wookie from the planet Kashyyyk , but Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now, think about that. That does not make sense! Why would a Wookiee - an eight foot tall Wookiee - want to live on Endor with a bunch of two foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! What does that have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! None of this makes sense. If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests. DAMNIT!
Grinding is what basically made me delete some alts. Had 20, keeping 10, continue playing 4 classes I enjoy the most. I enjoy guild raid progression competition, but sadly there is lack of guilds (that actually raid) to compete with on my server for Horde. Maybe server connection will help maybe. In Shadowlands thinking just 3 toons after my BFA vacation.
Yeah there’s a reason why Legion was considered so terrible when Legendaries were nothing but RNG with a horrible hidden “BLP until 4 leggos” system and was considered awesome after they made Legendaries something you could grind
I also am a huge fan of BIS farming and having a defined ending to your game experience (like obtaining the best gear, 8/8 tier (man, I miss tier), etc).
Most people don’t play more than one toon, for endgame content at least. With azerite, azerite gear, essences, cloak, corruption, and echos, there’s a lot to grind for.
Not only that, some people that love to multiclass don’t have the time to grind out all the extra systems and/or currencies.
It is not just a “personal problem” when many others have the same problems.
And if you think all the systems and currencies that we have are fine to grind for on 4+ toons, you play this game way to much.
I don’t play more than two toons, one as of recently, because of the amount of systems and currencies that we need on our characters.
I would actually play my alts if the HOA was account bound, along with essences, cloak, echos, and CV.
I love monk tanking, after playing mine i haven’t touched in ages. But I don’t love it so much as to get rank 15 cloak with 100 corruption resistance and stack vers corruption on him.
So he sits and waits until I can play my alts without all the stress of so many required systems and currencies.
I would never call myself a completionist simply because to me the ultimate completionist activity is pathfinder, which can die in a fire. That said, I mostly agree with OP and it’s why I’ve been trending classic over retail lately. Having a goal and meeting it isn’t really a bad thing. That’s actually my goal for classic to have a character in tier, it can be tier 1, I just want to rock actual tier instead of a transmog if only for once in my wow life.
I don’t like completionism and grinding out a full BIS set or anything like that because it doesn’t hold any interest or meaning to me but I also don’t like pointless grinds attached to things of any kind. I LIKE grinds, I just don’t like endless grinds. I like the idea of gradually working towards something and then getting it, just not as much as you do OP. I still do not like the idea of just endlessly grinding something with no real benefit like AP.
This really is me and I haven’t felt this way since WOD. Loved being able to get one character “done” and move on to an alt to repeat the same thing. The grind was always doing it first, the hours spent progressing on raid fights and making myself a better raider; doing the same on alts repeatedly until I was ready for or the new raid launched was a reward for all that time and effort.
I miss it a lot Shadowlands seems like a step in that direction which is nice.
Shadowlands seems like a step in that direction which is nice.