I dont understand why they cant just copy what WOTLK did

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Before in WOTLK you can hit max level and do w/e you want and not worry about being gatekept.
now you have to do some campaign LOL

I think this is one of the biggest issue in WoW rn.

WOTLK didnt have this and it was the top sub to upto 12 mil. So like idk why just not copy what WOTLK did

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Stupid little gates like Renown and the Soul Ash cap is what mainly killed this expansion. Plus, 9.0 lasted too long.

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Who ever said gatekeeeping is a fun mechanic

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Think of it like raid attunements only its story mode without a skip button! I am wondering if I should do the campaign on my alts just to unlock the Korthia grapple points… like yea I really wanted those campaign skips blizz…

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LFM ICC, 5.5k GS or Kick.

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Arthas was the villain… that is why it had 12 million subs, people wanted to finish Warcraft 3 story… and by the way i strongly believe when WOtLK classic comes out it’s gonna be huge!!

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aren’t raid lockouts basically a form of time-gating

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Because Wrath had a lot of content. Under the current leadership, they make it very obvious that it’s easier to put roadblocks in front of players than to create content.

The ones with the power used to be all about story, but these days the ones with power and influence inside the company are all about systems.

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Doing something you already did might not work for that reason alone.

But I can cite others:

  • WotLK wasnt a success due to its own merits, it is was a culmination of a work from Vanilla to WotLK, and most people who joined in WotLK did not joined wow because of WotLK, but because the people ALREADY PLAYING made the game what it was.
  • WotLK wasnt the best in its entirety, because if you take the head out of the “echo chamber of the forums” you would know that the success of WotLK was unique, never before and never after because it bore a massive exodus too. Many people left before Cata, and not for anything but the changes made in the last two patches in WotLK.
  • It was a different time, people had different options, different scenarios and the World was different. What WoW brought to the table at that time wont work now.

People can go on and on, how “classic is a success” it is not, or how WotLK (my favorite xpac actually) was the peak, which is true but does not mean what people imply by saying it. But at the end of the day, again taking you head out of the echo chambers of the wow players you see that WoW is in decay for a long time, and have been a slow and steady process that did not started because of anything last 2 or 3 xpacs, but started EXACTLY in WotLK.

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False I joined WoTLK due to WOTLK not for vanilla or anything else.

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By definition the “anecdotal evidence”.

Anecdotes did not got that name for nothing.

Want another example of anecdotal evidence ?

I think it is useless to read what you say, so I will ignore you.
It would be an “anecdotal evidence” to use it as a reason for other to ignore you.
But to me, alone, it works.

Like your argument. It is only about you, so it only matter to you.

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Lol people are gonno complain why they gotto do horse dailies to get gear

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False, I am simply proving that what you said is false.

  • WotLK wasnt a success due to its own merits, it is was a culmination of a work from Vanilla to WotLK, and most people who joined in WotLK did not joined wow because of WotLK, but because the people ALREADY PLAYING made the game what it was.

Fact: People just didn’t join WOTLK because of what you just said
Some people did join WOTLK for different other reasons. IE being the best expansion.

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I didn’t do any dailies at all in WOTLK.

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Someone joined in WotLK because they were struck by a sudden realization that they needed to play this “unknown game” called World of Warcraft, that was just released (in WotLK time), and the devs were just launching the game and seeing what was happening.

The game happened to be launched “free of so many bugs” because the devs were awesome, and not because the game existed from years at that time.

They did not needed the massive advertising in WotLK to know the game, advertisement that showed up because so many people were paying already to play the game.

They joined an empty game because no one who was playing before WotLK stayed because of what the game had before.

It was everything, almost you could call it World of the Lich King, because it has nothing that was from before, no player from before, and no know how from before.

I mean, people are often dismissive of the legacies and the compounding effect of experience, but damn, someone people can really be that obtuse.

Imagine me saying that someone is an expert in Constitutional Law, not because they spent 5 years studying, but because they took a 6 month class on Advanced Constitutional Law. The required knowledge they just “summoned from thin air”.

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wolk also had daily heroic and 4 instances of same one-room raid.

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But it had Arthas and Malganis.

Sure they could bring those back and it would be nice …

Oh … wait …

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it also had Mr T’s mohawk grenade. what probably truly drove those numbers up.

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Ozzy ad might have some to do with it too …

Me personally, I like this other one, because it is hillarious:

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It’s a dig at how player reception in WoTLK wasn’t all that peachy. Things were reversed during that time because it was elitists who were whining the loudest lol.

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