What an absolute mess of a spec.
Button bloat to the EXTREME.
Maintaining Maelstrom Weapon.
Having 3-4 reactive spells that you need to keep track of.
There is absolutely no way to play this class effectively without WeakAura and even then it is just a mess
If Blizzard does decide to remove combat addons (like WeakAura) the class is going to need an extensive overhaul.
What a mess of a spec
I’ve got a WA for my surging totem and my MSW stacks, that’s it. I’m sure I could have another 100 for tracking things but I can’t be bothered.
Blizzards hud for maelstrom is bleh for me so I’ve just got a basic WA icon that that counts to 10 and a basic icon that shows how much time my totem has left.
This is obviously for totemic, I’ve barely played Stormbringer, and I know from the surface Stormbringer looks easier, but I think to utilise it properly there’s a lot more to keep track of and you can screw your rotation easily.
The spec is definitely not for the weak of heart. It is usually one of the highest APM specs with a rotation or priority system that changes regularly. While simultaneously being historically one of the worst preforming specs in the game as their red headed step child in both pve and PvP.
With all that said, if it wasn’t for shaman I probably wouldn’t play the game, I can play and drop alts, but my shaman is always my “main”, love the class, spec, mogs, animation, everything.
Some people like it …
It’s poor design, we all know it.
Blizzard however, has refused to make it fluid.
Just bring back classic enh shaman and let go dw and 2h.
You can remove 2 buttons (Ele Blast + Frost Shock/Icy Strike) and be completely fine DPS wise.
Sundering is not even used and you can play with automatic wolves (though they aren’t even used in current Stormbringer builds).
So where is the bloat exactly? You have like 6-7 buttons in your main rotation and then your 2 big cooldowns.
Perhaps the problem is you just copied staple wowhead build without even looking at it?
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Bloat was only one part of the issue with Ehnance, so lets assume that removing the 2 abilities you said the class no longer suffers from ability bloat (I disagree, but w/e).
You have to track Maelstrom Weapon
You have to track Tempest (if you are stormbringer)
You have to track Ice Strike
You have to track Voltiac Blaze
Now lets see how many abilities you still have
CD’s under 10 seconds:
Stormstrike
Lave Lash
Crash lightning
CD’s under 1min:
Doom Winds
Primordial Wave + Primordial Storm
Feral Spirit (technically 1.5min)
CD’s 2min+:
Ascendance
Bloodlust
That is just an absurd amount of abilities to know which order they are in. And that’s an absurd amount of buffs you need to track. When taken as a whole you absolutely need WA’s just to make sure you are doing ok, even if its only for a few items because in 12.0 addons will be removed.
This spec absolutely needs a overhaul
So you are saying you agree to “assume” what I said about removing buttons and then you list Ice Strike? And tracking Bloodlust is an issue for you?
Honestly it’s not even worth the effort, you have no clue in the slightest, you’d do good playing something else.
Enhance is one of the most liked specs by the people who actually play it. The general consensus from actual enhancement players is that the spec is good gameplay. Especially since you have essentially 2 specs in one
Move along tourists, this is not for you.
Enhance could use a few improvements here and there like pretty much all specs.
But a full blown rework? Not even a little bit
It’s extremely fluid if you play it properly. Enhancement just really punishes you if you’re bad - this is where you’d see gaps in your rotation or significant dips in damage. Have some discipline, fix your awful play, and you’ll see why it’s regarded as one of the most satisfying specs in the game.
It’s really not even particularly difficult anyway.
Tell that to 90% of the WoW population.
I understand the sentiment here but it’s always going to get reworked. That’s just how the game works. There is a good chance it’s going to look significantly different when Midnight comes out just like how DF changed the spec from the “near perfection” that was SL Enh.
I personally hope that spec trees overall see some pruning. I want variety in talents, but I just think that we can choose too many of them at once. Go wide in design, not deep. I think this would be the best solution to what many players across many specs refer to as specs “feeling bloated.”
The answer to those complaints is already there and it’s called stormbringer.
There is nothing to fundamentally fix, only improve what’s already there.
There is a reason why enhance is so liked by people who actually play it
Move along tourists
Funny how many people who say this started playing it in DF and will never touch it when it is a “low tier” spec.
The amount of crossover there is between “competitive” WoW players and the way South Park portrayed overly “virtuous” hybrid drivers sniffing their own “smug” is hilarious.
what i find annoying is that arc discharge iluminates LB/CL , that confuses new players and even veterans , u think u got a static acumulation proc …but nope
no, but the skill ceiling from a key perspective (despite tuning) has escalated given the absolute mess of things that need to be tracked and played around for SB this season
ehhhhh
Maelstrom weapon can definitely use an actual resource bar.
We can definitely get some kind of UI heads up display for when we proc things like Tempest and Voltaic Blaze.
These are QoL changes I think would be welcome. For now, I use weakauras for this purpose. I love the spec but it def could use some UI improvements.
Precisely, there’s a lot of addons I could learn to live without, but the WA for tracking maelstrom weapon is so important I don’t know how the spec remains playable. At least not for the average joe-shmoe
Hi, mained Enhancement and almost exclusively Enhancement since WotLK.
And while these days I play far more casual, I used to be a cutting edge raider (before people try to call me out for not being hardcore now)
And I agree with what Lenegis said. Move along, tourists. Enhancement is fun and engaging. There’s a multitude of other classes to play if you want more simplicity, but allow us that like the engagement and piano playing to have the one class that’s like that.
Thank you.
I never said it’s not. I just said that if you think they aren’t going to change the spec from where it is, you’re coping. Reworks and redesigns are inevitable. It’s how Blizzard keeps playstyles from going “stale.”
I don’t believe the spec is going to change much at all as far as baseline playstyle goes in Midnight or even in The Last Titan. I suspect they are going to add or make massive changes to the Hero Talents instead. After TLT though, who knows. They could make large changes to overall gameplay like possible redoing the talent system again for all we know and that would impact the fundamental design of the spec.
Times change. How long you’ve played or at what level doesn’t mean anything. Someone who picks up the spec and falls in love with the gameplay it will have next year has just as valid opinions of it as someone who has been maining it since the game launched.
All you are doing is preening and sniffing your own “smug.” Your opinion holds the same value here as everyone else. Not much at all. Your feedback is unheard and duly ignored by Blizzard and pretty much everyone.
HA, good one. It ain’t that hard and if you really wanted it seem like it was, you wouldn’t use addons to manage the spec for you but like everybody else here, you’re not going to do that.