I don't hate timegating

I’m a mid 30s with a wife and child and more than full time job. If there were infinite grinds in the game I’m pretty sure it’d push me away since not logging in would make me feel behind. Its nice to be able to play for a couple hours a day and not feel the same intense pressure to GOGOGOGOGOGO and get as much as I can done in order to keep up.

thats just my 2 copper though.

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Shouldn’t be any gating. There’s no reason why everyone should need to experience everything at the same time. People with more time should not be held back.

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This sounds that Historian meme .

It ain’t aliens but its aliens :rofl:

I agree. Not in the same boat as you but I have enough responsibility in life that time gating FAR outweighs the endless AP grind of Legion and BFA. God bless time gating!

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Sure but then how quickly would you be seeing groups requiring 200 ilevel for the new raid normal groups and M+, with people like me absolutely left behind, begging for scraps.

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I believe there should be no gating.
If someone wants to go whole hog and insta cap things in a day, they should be able to.
I mean they’re putting in the effort and should be rewarded for it, on the other side if someone can’t put in the crazy work instantly they don’t have to either as they can go at their own pace.

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If the gate is too low or too timegatey, we’re not getting enough content. If the gate is set too high, there’s too much content you have to do.

There really is no pleasing everybody.

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There will always be other players playing at your pace.

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I would agree with you if WoW was F2P, but you have a 30 days subscription, and you should be able to rush whatever you want during this time. Time gating is just a way to keep people paying for not playing.

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I don’t think timegating is wrong, though it can be a bit overboard at times. Looking at you legion quests on that silly island with like one quest a week. I might say that they stretch things out a bit much for my taste too at times.

But on the whole? Eh. I like having a wall and being “done” most of the time really.

Combined with we all know it’d be used as a filtering tool if it wasn’t gated because players by and large go the easy route. I think we all know you’d see people declined because they’re not renown level 9001 if it wasn’t gated.

So it’s not an inherently bad mechanic, though at times feels used excessively.

I think you have to keep in mind that they balance everything to take some amount of time. The problem arises when you balance for Try-Hard Tony, who’ll do it as optimally as possible, to take any time at all and the Casual Carole over there will never get it done. But if you balance it for Casual Carole, then Try-Hard Tony did it in 30 minutes. Now he’s complaining there’s nothing to do.

Time-gating levels the playing field a bit and lets them keep people more in sync without burdening people. Again they have stretched things out to silly depths before, but it’s a tool. It can be used correctly or abused.

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True, I mean, there is about 3 years on this exp. Enough time to get everything in and eventually be on the high gear of things. People run alts, all the time. There will be plenty of grouping opportunity.

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There is, allow people to progress at the rate they want to. Imagine, paying for a game, paying to just log into the game you paid for, then being told “You gave us money, but you can only do a certain amount. We will only let you play some, until we decide it appropriate for you to play and do more”.

Other than the Expac feeling slow and boring that’s why I unsubbed and uninstalled. I’m tired of paying for things only to be told I can’t have all of what I paid for.

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I can’t keep up as it is, so very happy about a bit of time gating. There are still plenty of things someone can do if they choose azeroth over life.

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I agree, I think it’s the unpopular opinion but I personally like that I don’t constantly feel like I am falling behind if I can make time in my schedule to play.

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Time-gating is a necessary evil in an MMO. There’s no way to design content as fast as players clear it.

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Imagine thinking the expansion is slow and boring before M+, the first raid, the first PvP season, and the associated Great Vault weekly chest is even on the table. Do you do actually none of those things? Then I could see you thinking it was slow and boring.

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I think it’s the unpopular opinion because it’s the selfish one. And not just selfish but pointless in an ever evolving mmo

You will never be “done”

You’re taking satisfaction in a lie at the expense of more committed players. Full stop

I too am in my 30s with a life. If I fall behind, that’s my problem not the world’s.

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Honestly, I am not arguing with anyone over which opinion on this is more or less selfish.

An opinion is just that, an opinion. It can be wrong to others and right to some.

What’s selfish is belittling someone because you don’t share the same opinions.

If they change it so be it, if they don’t fine. My opinion is I like it for x reason. It’s not selfish, it’s my opinion on something in a video game.

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They would have time if they didn’t waste time designing systems on top of systems trying to recreate the wheel every single xpac.

Just saying.

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So everyone prefers having to take a day off due to IRL problems and be horribly behind, having to push themselves to even get to the ‘required’ area?
Has Ny’alotha taught nothing with its thousand dailies and Azerite Grind? It’s daily visions and grinding for Heart Powers? It’s Cloak lv 15 requirements which means you gotta do visions, which means you gotta do Invasions, which means even more WQ on top of WQ.

There’s too little content, and then there’s too much content.
Take your daily calling, your Anima Conduits, rep grinds and Torghast run at your own pace. Make mats for a legendary, plan ahead, get ready for Castle Nathria, figure out your Soulbinds and how your Covenant abilities work.
There’s no rush other than the one you make. I’ve accepted I am not gonna be as geared as the people rushing Mythic +0 dungeons RN, but I know that I can still get some adequate pieces if I allot my time correctly.

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