Don’t even know if the dev or devs working on shaman have their heart in it since the change to pwave is having some pushback by the looks of it and then there is the fact even though its reported as a 17% nerf the players seems to have more data because they have so many folks doing DPS tests over and over having come to the conclusion that it’s more of a 30 to 40% DPS nerf.
I suspect this problem won’t be addressed for awhile as something is going on over there. This is a clear sign something is wrong.
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Im in full agreement. For Enhancement, unless you are part of the Primordial Wave Cult, ive seen up to a 400k DPS loss. Instead of doing continuous rebuilds, ive just shelved the Shaman and said forget about it. It was perfectly fine for Season 1 and had a ton of fun with it. Now, well, i dont even want to have it in my primary warband.
Yep… I feel like they fired 2/3rds of class design team and now they are letting some classes fall by the wayside.
Or something idk
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What should this thread be named you ask?
How about: whinging, whining, and salty tears?
Huh? It is not a dps loss for enhance it is far, far better. There is a dps loss because we did receive nerfs (enh overperformed last season by a lot) but it is still doing very good damage in all forms of content. This is why things cannot be based solely on 1 players gameplay lol. It is much easier to use, much more fun to use, and does more damage than before.
It was not perfectly fine in season 1, that is ridiculous. it was overpowered and had some gameplay issues for both totemic and stormbringer that they smoothed over. Balance between spenders and generators is far better as well with lava lash doing a ton of damage, proccing free sunderings with hot hands (so much so that we no longer need to talent sundering) which also procs windfury and ele blast/prim storm doing a ton of damage as well. They made consuming whirling earth easier and automatic as well. It is far better than before.
No i am not part of of the pwave cult. That ability has harmed this class by playing on the Stockholm Syndrome of most of the shamans. Now they keep trying to design the class around it. I’m getting tired of them designing the class around one core ability instead of our overall kit and adaptability.
But no they make one thing strong in it and building any other way is a huge reduction in DPS. I tried the latest pwave and they made it do so much damage that it’s really annoying.
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Well I have PWave and PStorm and it works out great. Last season as Totemic, you could not do a viable fire build, and for most builds, lava lash was not even on you bar. Two of our Hero talents were not even used.
This season the rotation is smoothed out, and our spenders work. and ALL of our talents work now. Being Enhanced this season is wonderful. I hope Eemetal get their issues smoothed out.
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The problem is it works great and your DPS suffer s if you don’t have it. Again they are forcing you to use it by pigeonholing your DPS through it.
As for not having lava lash on your bar that’s wild as it spread your flame shocks and keeps refreshing them if need be.
lol what
“the problem with pwave is that its a good spell for enhance”
Bug was fixed the following day. The bug itself was just a flat 17% aura nerf to Elemental so doing 30% to 40% less damage is going to attributed to player skill + the aura nerf bug. It’s gone now.
Negative sentiments towards the Pwave change is largely regarding how it affected Elemental. Enhance players tend to like it because a good portion of their rework coming into this patch aimed to integrate the new Pwave talent leaf (Pwave>Splintered>Pstorm) via talent changes and changes to interactions. Not to mention Pstorm being designed to functionally scale and work with pretty much any build/hero talent choice, For Elemental they changed it’s functionality and then didn’t do anything to account for loss of interactions and synergies it had with the spec as a whole.
If it works good, then who literally cares? This is honestly funnier than the normal “Pwave bad” posts you tend to make.
I tried it on elemental and it feels terrible.
As for my pwave hate it was also back when it looks like muck water that looks like it kills it targets through dysentery.
My problem with pwave now is that all my other abilities feel weak and pwave is this big strong hit that none of my other moves feel like that do. It makes the other side of the tree irrelevant. Unlike other classes that can fill out most of their spec tree you have to go a specific build otherwise it feels like a huge dps loss. I don’t know how to explain the feeling.
I mean again, welcome to literally every spec in the game. Season 1 literally forced the whole Ascendance leaf. Frost DK is forced by a large margin to play DW and incorporate Obliteration into every single build (even if you are playing BoS). The years and years of playing Unholy being a 3-4 min CDR spec as Unholy due to how insanely powerful Army, Apoc, and Army of Damned were which blocked out Dark Arbiter/Gary gameplay.
Again, get over yourself and enjoy Enhance being meta for 5th patch in a row, and borderline broken for the 2nd patch in a row. And if you really don’t like Pwave that much, then bite your tongue, got take the ascendance leaf and go about your day. Signed an Elemental who had our Pwave shot so Enhance could get theres reworked.
Enhance will always have this issue so long as anything related to Elemental Wolves remains meta, tuning will just flip flop back and forth between the Ascendance Leaf or the Pwave Leaf. Enhance also literally can’t be given the option to take all 3 of their cap stones because the power it would.
I mean this is a big fat who cares since PWave is like 2% of your profile and Pstrom is 6% of your profile (single target that is). Meanwhile Sundering is approximately 6%, and Stormstrike and Lava Lash easily compose significantly more of your damage profile that anything related to PWave or Pstorm. This isn’t even mentioning Windfury Weapon either.
agree pwave sucks it sucked in shadowlands it sucked all of DF and everytime I’m able to not play pwave the game feels so much more fun
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Honestly at this point it feels like they’re intentionally stripping their pants down and flipping us the bird while laughing.
They seriously DO NOT give a $#!% about elemental shaman players it seems …
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