I do not understand, why?

I do not understand why people from retail are angry about WoW Classic. It is that simple if you do not want wow classic, do not play it. Why do these players got to scream and throw tantrums for changes like adding LFG/LFR, pet battles and world quests? Not only that they turn around and have their famous youtube video bloggers say "It is not us, it is the private server people." They know they are lying to us and acting smug about it. Seriously, to all those who want changes like what I just mentioned. Leave, you had your changes, we vanilla based players waiting YEARS for something like this to happen.
10/28/2018 12:40 PMPosted by Rhalit
I do not understand why people from retail are angry about WoW Classic. It is that simple if you do not want wow classic, do not play it. Why do these players got to scream and throw tantrums for changes like adding LFG/LFR, pet battles and world quests? Not only that they turn around and have their famous youtube video bloggers say "It is not us, it is the private server people." They know they are lying to us and acting smug about it. Seriously, to all those who want changes like what I just mentioned. Leave, you had your changes, we vanilla based players waiting YEARS for something like this to happen.
Atta boy, tell those kinds of retailers to mind their own damn business
10/28/2018 12:40 PMPosted by Rhalit
I do not understand why people from retail are angry about WoW Classic. It is that simple if you do not want wow classic, do not play it. Why do these players got to scream and throw tantrums for changes like adding LFG/LFR, pet battles and world quests? Not only that they turn around and have their famous youtube video bloggers say "It is not us, it is the private server people." They know they are lying to us and acting smug about it. Seriously, to all those who want changes like what I just mentioned. Leave, you had your changes, we vanilla based players waiting YEARS for something like this to happen.


While I can sympathsize that it's annoying when we get people asking for changes or blatantly lying about things like x wouldn't affect y to justify implementing it the best we can do is counter it with constructive arguments rather than treating them like plague victims. Yes I don't agree with them and I'm honestly concerned what classic will release with at this rate but we shouldn't lower ourself to that kind of level. It's bait to make us look like bad, unreasonable, caricatures to be dismissed.

Don't fall for it. It would help alleviate some tension if the blues posted to reassure us no changes and "Vanilla means Vanilla" is still the plan but I can understand they don't want to get caught in the crossfire - we'll have to wait for Blizzcon to see. Try not to lose your temper with them it just diminishes the arguments when we make them and makes us easier to dismiss.
10/28/2018 12:45 PMPosted by Sinvare
While I can sympathsize that it's annoying when we get people asking for changes or blatantly lying about things like x wouldn't affect y to justify implementing it the best we can do is counter it with constructive arguments rather than treating them like plague victims. Yes I don't agree with them and I'm honestly concerned what classic will release with at this rate but we shouldn't lower ourself to that kind of level. It's bait to make us look like bad, unreasonable, caricatures to be dismissed.

Don't fall for it. It would help alleviate some tension if the blues posted to reassure us no changes and "Vanilla means Vanilla" is still the plan but I can understand they don't want to get caught in the crossfire - we'll have to wait for Blizzcon to see. Try not to lose your temper with them it just diminishes the arguments when we make them and makes us easier to dismiss.

I would have to agree with you 100%, the best thing I do I debate. These people who do what I have mentioned is they are horrible at debating and presenting facts.

10/28/2018 12:43 PMPosted by Gnarlybolt
Atta boy, tell those kinds of retailers to mind their own damn business


Thanks boss.
For the same reason the classic zealots lie constantly about retail...

Tribalism is strong in humans because it was beneficial for evolution. We now must overcome this detriment of our evolution.
Some people don't want everyone to be happy, they only want themselves to be happy. It's like giving a baby a ball and then giving another baby another ball, the first baby will cry because they don't want the other baby to have fun too.

That's what classic is, its finally appealing to the other side of the player base who want that more but the retail side is unhappy now because they don't get everything for themselves anymore.

I don't know why everyone has to be so entitles these days, the more choices the better, everyone gets to play the game that they want instead of being forced to play one game.
10/28/2018 02:34 PMPosted by Mightylink
Some people don't want everyone to be happy, they only want themselves to be happy. It's like giving a baby a ball and then giving another baby another ball, the first baby will cry because they don't want the other baby to have their own ball.


Kind of makes sense.
I don't think anyone who gives a damn about Classic actually wants modern features in the game. I'm pretty sure ever thread you've ever seen on the topic was a troll thread.
Because they're threatened a 14 year old MMO will destroy their Hello Kitty Island Adventures: Mount & Pet Collection RNG Simulator.

Understandable, but it will happen.
10/28/2018 12:40 PMPosted by Rhalit
I do not understand why people from retail are angry about WoW Classic. It is that simple if you do not want wow classic, do not play it.


Those people are likely the typical "give me classic for free with my BFA sub or I won't play it" retail player.
They're scared that we're going to steal their players and rightfully so.
They are angry because of posters that attack them constantly (like a few in this thread), they are not scared about losing players to Classic, or that Classic will beat Retail (and though I don't play BfA, claiming Classic will beat it is laughable.)

They're just pissed at the Classic "community" because they are acting like jerks toward anyone that dares to like BfA.
they know it expose how bad retail is possibly leading to changes i nthe future. They like the easy diablo like wow. Classic was a RPG/mmo masterpiece retail is garbage
Is this your first time on the internet?

I don't know but anger and outrage are what it's all about.
Misery loves company. They just want our game to fail because there’s already has. There really is no other reason.
10/28/2018 03:11 PMPosted by Fallanaa
They're just pissed at the Classic "community" because they are acting like jerks toward anyone that dares to like BfA


The same thing happens to classic players who dare to say they don't like current retail.

Both games need their separate forums. The 2 will never co exist peacefully
I feel it's the same coming from the classic community. The classic community is bashing on BFA saying that classic will take all players and that retail will die.
At least it's fun to read on the toilet.
its like ebola, waiting for new host....it is how it survives...
10/28/2018 03:11 PMPosted by Fallanaa
They are angry because of posters that attack them constantly (like a few in this thread), they are not scared about losing players to Classic, or that Classic will beat Retail (and though I don't play BfA, claiming Classic will beat it is laughable.)

They're just pissed at the Classic "community" because they are acting like jerks toward anyone that dares to like BfA.

funny because for years those on live were the ones insulting classic fans and telling them to !@#$ and wall of no and etc.
guess they can't handle it when the shoe is on the other foot.
10/28/2018 03:42 PMPosted by Razazam
I feel it's the same coming from the classic community. The classic community is bashing on BFA saying that classic will take all players and that retail will die.
At least it's fun to read on the toilet.

except BFA is obviously trending down right now. Blizzard is trying to right the ship with a lot of changes they are implementing (better rewards from emissarys, M+ being able to give you currency to buy M+ level Azerite armor, Paragon caches coming back, etc); but is it too late?

When i saw the trailer for BFA i was stoked. when i heard about Island Expeditions and Warfronts i thought they were a very cool idea. the reality is though that they are flops.
Blizzard is not going to change any gameplay aspects of Classic outside of what... reporting? If you even consider that gameplay

It's really not worth worrying about those people.
They are not going to impact the game.