I do not understand the outrage

Why are you quoting me, bruh? lol Leave me out of your post.

Why do people insist on excusing incompetence?

A quotes a quote but not a quote only when its not quoted. Wanna donut? :wink:

Leave it to a rogue to act like a snowflake and complain about everything.

Mythal: Why are you quoting me? Leave me out of it.

Also Mythal:

If you don’t intend to undermine the argument, maybe don’t make undermining statements. All I did was quote your statement for what it was worth, and used it as part of a launch pad. It worked well with my post because, surprise surprise, your tone was very much in line with the argument that it’s OK to be unreasonably upset.

You might not have meant that, but when you pick out a small point they made, “a few,” and invalidate that, you’re ultimately attempting to invalidate the whole argument. If you didn’t see it that way, cool, but that’s the end result, which is why you got caught up.

Maybe think before you post.

Edit:

To be clear, if you don’t want to be associated with a thought process, don’t post something that supports it without saying anything else. If you had a reason why “a few = 7” was meaningful, but not inflammatory or problematic, you should have added that. Otherwise all we’re left to believe is that you believe more that it’s unacceptable than that it’s just an overall small inconvenience.

Pretty good, probably.

Only one game to worry about, no snapshotting system, no character copy.

Yes, please. Waiting for servers to come online is hungry work.

Okay dood.

Let me rephrase:

You challenged the OP but in such a vague way as to imply you challenged the entire argument. Without more context, I could only assume it was essentially a rebuke of the whole.

So you got caught up.

If you do not disagree with the OP, and believe that such delays are basically just minor, even if not “few” in literal terms, then alright. I’ll accept that and we’re good.

It just seemed like you were rejecting the whole premise that we should be forgiving because “a few” wasn’t a few anymore.

Understanding the complexities of mmos and data copying and transfering does not make people corporate bootlickers.

It makes them understanding to the people working the best they can with a bunch of entitled monkeys who are 1 or 2 steps away from sending death threats because they can’t access their game

The servers are still down, so I’ll entertain you for a moment.

The basis of the OP originated on downplaying the maintenance delay by identifying it as “a few” hours, when in reality, it was more than double their suggestion. If they really wanted a serious response to their question (title), why start the first sentence by underplaying the situation? If the answer is that it doesn’t really matter, then my response seemed more than appropriate.

The outrage is why wasn’t these mystical new things tested out in Beta. Character copy is done on PTR. That process should basically be the the same just on a larger scale. I still do not understand why these things aren’t tested out during Beta. If they have an issue or concern then test it during Beta at least a week ahead of time. It seems they are more worried about the streamers playing beta and getting free advertising out then polishing the product they want to release to us commoners.

This aged like milk.

Most of the incompetence is coming from execs/corp/shareholders. Not the devs and the blues.

Your the moron who took off work today lol

Because very likely Corporate told the devs they had to have it all out by strict deadlines, deadlines that the devs didn’t even feel safe telling us till we were within a month of reaching. With such a rush they did not have time to test it.

Anyone who would even try to defend this needs to be written off as the shill they are, their opinions worth less than used toilet paper.

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I think the best part is that Classic players got to experience what it’s like for FFXIV big patch maintenance days.

Extended by 9 hours isn’t a few hours. Admit it, Blizzard screwed up badly

I’d argue that the ultimate argument is that it’s not excessive to delay a launch. The specific amount of time is actually more ephemeral than you’d think. Everyone will have their own point where they stop and say “alright this has been a long time.” That doesn’t mean much.

Firstly I’d argue we need to ignore the entire planned maintenance. Which means this is a launch delayed by less than half a day, for right now. That would require it be delayed until 3AM PDT. At the end of the day, despite your arguments, you’re attempting to undermine their statement. Yes, you’re right, it’s not a few hours, but you’re actively saying “therefore it’s not a small issue.” It’s still a small issue, though.

In the end you’re still tackling the fundamental argument. Which is that it’s not a big deal right now. Whether it’s 3 or 7, I’d argue they’re right . You can’t include any of the original maintenance as part of the launch. So a launch delayed by 3, or 7, or 10, hours? Not a big deal. It’s just not. Not enough to get pantscrappingly offended, like a lot of people here. (Not saying you did that, but OP was arguing against them, by arguing against him you’re favoring them).

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