I do not play HC classic, but I still support Blizzard doing a rollback for them

very important

I mean, that’s really the key point for me.

By NOT doing the rollbacks, they’re making this more likely to happen again. By making this more likely to happen again, they’re negatively affecting me. I don’t care about the streaming guild. I don’t care about HC. I care about not interfering with my game because someone wants to troll some guild I don’t care about.

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Rather than roll back servers everytime they’re hit with DDOS, Blizz should come up with some way to prevent HC death due to disconnects. Of course then people would just alt F4 whenever they were about to die. So the lesson is we can’t have nice things because people suck.

no roll backs for individual disconnects being asked , we want rollbacks when there is a server crash due to something on Blizzards end.

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I’m wholly convinced that everyone going “no rollbacks!” wants WoW as a whole to die.

Maybe it’s for the best, then they can go troll elsewhere.

these servers had had many mini extinctions since this started as fan based add-on movement. There was no point to it at any point really accept to have fun and just move on when you died. I’ve lost a few HC chars in trial runs.

I ran HC before. Here is what you do when players killing mobs in westfall are lagging out. Step 1, don’t think today is the day to run a raid.

I’ve had open world server issues in HC in the past. Pray you live, get to safe spot, log off.

Push through it, well that is now on the player.

This wasn’t even ddos related. It was crap patching, or the servers needed a smoke break on the weekend.

Why I dropped HC in time. Servers go to crap my time zone, I assume a skeleton weekend crew on what is like 0200 west coast US time, assume its not getting any better, go back to (then) era/TBCC.

I do stuff like this SP games. its all on my system. LIke I picked up gears tactics on steam sale. Iron man runs. I’ve gotten pro at the first 10 missions. Redo happens when key players die at say mission 11 or higher a few times.

My rig, no internet need…so its all me. or the power company lol.

Same such a huge waste of time if not. Big disrespect to the time wasted.

They don’t need to roll back the servers. I don’t get why people think it’s either nothing or the entire server is rolled back.

I assure you the characters have a death count / status and a time of death.
Just revive all the characters that died between X - Y timeframe, port them back to Org/SW, reset their death status to having never died. It’s really that simple.

It isn’t a question on can they do it. It’s a question of why wont they do it.
Yes, they have the disclaimer saying they wont review/get involved with deaths over server issues. But a targeted DDOS that wiped out this many players is surely an exception.

The options are simple

A) Reset the players that died
B) Accept that HC is now over

Welp. They did it.

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/in-response-to-the-ddos-attacks-2082423

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If you’re talking about only fangs they had a problem the night before, they had some DCs on the trash right before the wipe… it’s partially their own fault for nooke saying “hey something is up today is not the day to raid.”

But of course they can’t give up their views so then they pushed through and ignored the signs

Just wanted to make sure that you saw this. Your response to me saying they can not just resurrect the players is in fact possible, they’re doing it.
Know what you’re talking about next time before being so arrogant about it.

Just as I said 13 hours ago, they can address it on a per character basis.

So, I sat down and thought about it.

My very first character was rolled on I think Argent Dawn. That sounds familiar.

Then, after creating a bunch of alts during Vanilla (I started around the time of Dire Maul’s release), a friend of mine asked me to create a character on her server which was Moon Guard. It definitely was not Wrath, but right after TBC’s launch.

According to this website:

https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline_of_the_creation_of_US_realms#2007

Moon Guard was launched on March 8th, 2007, not 2008.

This tracks as TBC launched in January of that year.

I joined a starting raiding guild with said friend (the only one I was ever in) near the time Black Temple was released and I eventually realm-changed the original character (this one, actually) from Argent Dawn to Moon Guard as I had started 2-3 other characters by then, and well, Moon Guard became my “Alliance Server” where all of my Alliance characters were.

And then, of course, over the years, it turned into an overpopulated ERP cesspool but meh. I ain’t spending hundreds of dollars to move 15+ characters and a personal guild just to avoid it.

EDIT:

Glad to hear that they decided to resurrect those characters.

Now, granted, I’d like to see all characters, streamer and normie alike being rezzed if they died during the DDoS attacks, but this is a good start.

Teach the DDoS script kiddies that their efforts mean nothing and maybe they’ll stop doing it.

Too bad we couldn’t get 4chan on finding out who did this so that they can nuke their computers and/or get them in serious RL trouble. I’d love to see some of these idiots ending up in prison where they belong.

Can Blizzard restore dead characters? Sure. They could change them all into Gnomes with pink hats, too, if they wanted.

That isn’t a rollback, though, and you will find “rollback” nowhere in their post.

My objection to this whole thing was the sloppy use of the word “rollback” when - oho! - that isn’t what people even wanted. So why use the word?

Just like how I object to people calling group finder “queueing”.

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You cannot prevent. DDOS attacks.

But doing it that way is not a rollback.

They are not rolling back to a previous version of the database, since people will still have all the stuff that they earned since the DDOS started. This is just manually flipping some values in said database.

I don’t care what it technically is. It took the “reward” away from the attackers that did this, and is therefore a W on Blizzard’s part.

Also, to the attackers: get rekt, scrubs.

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good read en.wikipedia (dot) org/wiki/Corrupted_Blood_incident#Incident

Aged like milk.

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Oh snap, I heard they’re gonna actually go forward with rolling back the servers?? :open_mouth:
That legit :interrobang: … I mean good for them if that’s the case, but I was sure they weren’t going to.

If not, bugger aw well. Haha
– But if so :beers: Good for them.
DDOS’rs can suck it. lol

I feel that people who make statements like this must be younger. Who think things like rules are actually that rigid and not really just a set of collective agreements that can be bent at will when it makes overwhelming political or business sense.

This isn’t a change in the status quo. Blizzard has always had the ability to unilaterally execute a decision, they’ve just never had a business case like this where digital terrorism threatened their revenue stream.