Bit late now anyway, would have to be initiated nearly immediately after the action was commited
Idk, you’re the one who said you’re not? I’m confused by your response lol.
No you’re the one being confusing. This person said an untruth and you said they might have been mistaken. I said I wasn’t buying that. Everyone knows what server they started on.
Then you started acting like I was personally attacking you for some reason.
This was quite a bit larger than just a disgruntled guild. Im also fairly certain it was Activision as a whole that was targeted with this DDoS, not just hardcore WoW servers, as multiple games under their umbrella had stability issues (CoD, Diablo, etc)
For something that large it would basically either have to be nation states, or a massive botnet of compromised computers working in tandem, ie, on the scale of the DDoS attacks on X recently.
Never thought you were attacking me. You responded with “not buying that” to my comment about how it’s pretty easy to generalize or be mistaken well after most games from that time don’t even EXIST anymore, lol, so I presumed you were saying you weren’t buying when I started on Underbog (which was weird, but okay?)
No worries, just a miscommunication.
I was referring to the person who could somehow remember how many people were in the Goldshire inn 17 years ago but they can’t remember what server they were on in vanilla. I wasn’t ever doubting you.
Fair enough, lol. Maybe they’re full of it. Or maybe they’re generalizing too.
If they rollback or rez for ANY reason it’s no longer hardcore, and is instead softcore. Go back to softcore, if you want restores.
If you want this stance, make it so all hardcore servers are on a completely separate cluster so I don’t have to have my retail servers taken offline because your HC raiders piss off some kid halfway across the planet, k?
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No roll backs. Wouldn’t be fair to others who have died to lag or clipped through the ground or other stupid out of their hands way of dying. Oh but muh special streamer and his guild of buddies get’s a roll back? nah dude.
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Ehh I pretty much have no sympathy for HC players but this was out of their control. It was out of Blizzard’s control too. Plus, I don’t think the “terrorist” should win and not giving those people a rez is telling the “terrorist” that they not only won, they can do it again to get what they want.
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I didn’t even know Only Fangs existed until today and I don’t watch Sodopoppin so for me I don’t think they should get special treatment.
I think everyone on the HC servers that died when this ddos happened should get a rez.
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This would have worked if they rolled back immediately - too much time has passed now, and other players have made progress on their characters in that time.
What Blizzard should do is look at upgraded infrastructure, although I’m not an expert and I’m not sure how much is feasible to mitigate DDOS.
Again, I don’t know these folks. I’ve never watched their stream. I don’t care about them.
What I do care about is not encouraging the attackers to do it again. What I do care about is it affecting me on my retail server. So, give them the roll back to discourage the attackers and make it less likely that it happens to me on my retail server again.
Look, if I bought gold and Blizzard knew that I bought gold, they would take it away, reasonably, fair and square.
If I bought a carry (using RMT), and Blizzard knew it, they would take it away, fair and square. (Personal feelings on buying carries for gold notwithstanding, just commenting on Blizzard’s policies here.)
These attackers bought a DDOS and deleted characters for others, and Blizzard knows it, so they should take it away, fair and square.
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You really don’t grasp the scale of this, do you?
It wasn’t just wow hardcore, it was all versions of wow including retail, Call of Duty, Diablo 4, and other online games under the Activision umbrella.
As said earlier, the only entities with enough compute to actually do this are nation states, or massive multi-million+ machine botnets (also prob done by nation states if this is the case).
This isn’t just “some kid” but more likely, some government trying to destabilize North American companies (there were similar attacks recently on X among others)
I don’t buy that Blizzard would be a worthwhile target for a state actor. What do they gain…annoy some nerds for a couple hours? There’s no benefit for them in that.
More likely is this was targeted because of the HC stuff, and spilled over into other stuff…which means someone’s throwing away money for notoriety.
So, I propose taking away that notoriety. They go from “the person/group/whatever that took out Blizzard’s HC server mode permanently” to “people who wasted money annoying folks for a couple hours.”
Unless you have evidence to support your belief that this is a state actor…
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Maybe not, but Microsoft definitely is…
The chance of it being some sour grapes over a guild on HC WoW is about as close to 0% as you can get
Sure, but this didn’t affect all of Microsoft. Outlook didn’t go down. Just Blizzard. And it’s not like Microsoft isn’t a known target…Microsoft has been DDOS’d before (last time in July).
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Absolutely not.
It’s some losers disrupting HC Classic. It started right as they began their raid.
Don’t overcomplicate this, or give too much credit to the DDOSers.
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Is that really the solution, to do nothing? I don’t play hardcore, but if I did and saw hundreds of players dying in these episodes, I’d consider that game mode unplayable. I know people who stopped playing hardcore because of the long list of players who were killed off by whatever is happening.
We have no reason to believe these repeated server issues were anything but random. This has happened randomly around the clock.
I think the server issue was caused by changes made to save money by Blizzard. Is it more susceptible to attacks now? Maybe. That would be a Blizzard issue resulting from a security problem. Is there some other reason people just had an issue at noon on a Monday, which is not a popular raid time?
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