I do not believe there is a downside to account bound essences

no, no it wouldn’t, becuase every alt of 400 ilvl can already do that. there are no alts of 300 ilvl. two hours after hitting 120 my toons are in full benthics and usually have their own crafted 400 pieces. some classes can do that without essneces or azerite traits anywah.

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You haven’t seen these fresh Korraks alts have you?

If they aren’t overpowering then why do you all want them so badly?

ilvl 400 alts would need to earn Focused Azerite Beam to do what the man was talking about.

If you manage to run keys on your 400 ilvl alt, enough to get Focused Azerite Beam, then you deserve the damage.

Edit: I was wrong about the mythic plus and rated pvp essences being doable all at once, I apologize to anyone I may have misinformed.

Some of them are yes but, others can be knocked out as long as you feel like grinding. Essences like Crucible of Flame, Blood of the Enemy, and the nazjatar essences can all be ground out if you’re willing to do so. Once you’ve gotten the rustbolt insignia recipe, you can even grind that one out for alts to your hearts content. Which leaves how many essences that are time gated? Vision of perfect, Azeroths undying gift, worldvein resonance, and ripple in space. Which leaves four currently that can be gotten at your own pace, and five that need a few weeks of a few hours each. I’m only counting ripple in space as time gated because you can’t endlessly loop battle for nazjatar.

This thread is all about giving alts rank 3 essences for doing nothing.

I’d prefer to have them available by doing the new content via a vendor. I don’t mind playing to get my Alts geared up I just don’t feel like running out dated content I’ve seen for months just to be on par.

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don’t forget conflict and strife, one of the most necessary for a minor slot for pve. it’s absolutely time-gated unless you can get high rating

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It’s funny every says that, you’re not even using your top simming Essence setup, and not using Conflict and Strife as a minor is at most a 0.5% dps loss for you (using Lucid Dreams instead).

You’d gain DPS switching out of BotE. Also, using Icecap build rather than Breath.

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i’ve been trying this build to grind rating up to get conflict n strife rank 2, it’s the cookie cutter flarkness build. which, admittedly, i find myself completely lacking in the skill to pull it off the way he does. i’m quite possibly the worst pvp player in the world.

for raid i run Breath of Sindragosa build with cold heart, CLF major and strife minor, swapping out the other minor as needed because the sims don’t always show everything. for one they don’t take into account damage taken and how much strife reduces that via versatility stacks. not as important for dps, i know, but i’ll also be tanking some of the encounters in nyalotha and i’ll need CnS and BotE both at rank 3 along with some of the other essences i still don’t have at rank 3 depending on the situation.

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For tanking, you’ll want Null Barrier, and then could substitute Vision of Perfection for C&S as the 2nd minor. You’re probably looking at running 2 8.3 essences for the other 2 slots for the corruption reduction, at least early on.

Conflict and Strife isn’t really as mandatory as people make it out to be.

Also, you can’t use BotE to tank, it’s a DPS essence. The tank one is Sphere of Suppression, the Haste and slow.

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they still require the achievbement to get and cost marks of honor. that’s a sloggy grindfest of it’s own.

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30k honor is easy though, and it’s completely “grindable”, 0 time gating. Marks of Honor are easy to get, you get more than you’ll ever need getting the 30k honor.

Plus, the Tank PvP BG essence is more of a Mythic+ thing honestly.

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Is that because it adds a extra abilities to our stripped down bare-bones toolsets or because it provides extra versatility?

The fact that it’s amazing should tell you everything you need to know about class design right now.

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As a minor, you don’t get the PvP talent. That’s the major.

It’s also not “abilities” plural, it’s “ability” singular. For Blood DKs for instance, it’s the 2 charges of Death Grip talent. For Prot Paladins, it’s the very useless Steed of Glory.

Outside of Hot Trub DPS cheese for Brewmasters, Conflict and Strife isn’t that widely used as a major.

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So just the versatility benefits then? I can see where some classes benefit but not enough overall to make it as popular as it is.

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Free* stats are free stats.

*Not entirely free

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It is one of the better simming minors for sure for classes who value versatility. It’s not make or break good, but it’s good nonetheless.

I’m afraid i only have rank 1 of that essence but, don’t you merely need to get rating which isn’t gated at all beyond your own personal abilities? Does mmr only update weekly or something? Seriously, I don’t know and i’d like to know.

How about just scrapping the essence system altogether? :cow:

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A big reason is that its the largest secondary stat essence for tanks and healers. at rank 3 you can consistently get 8 stacks of the minor rolling which gives like 400 vers or so, probably more with higher gear levels. There are also a few other specs that take the major part, like frost dk could use it for aoe fights, mw monks get a really good one, holy priests have a unique utility off theirs that is situationally useful. etc. Then theres also as you said its good for classes that use vers in dps specs.